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  • #51
    Originally posted by Hard Boiled HK
    What's with all the hate for Tyson? I just don't see the reasoning.

    thats how it always has been,u should know this ahaha. he jus has that kind of personality of love him or hate him

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    • #52
      tysons talents were not overrated...like many said after his comeback from prison u could say that, but not back when i was a kid he was the ****

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Pugnacious_Z
        all i can say is GO EAT A **** skydog, ur dumb, dats it. marciano is 85kg, tyson was 100kg, marcian is nowhere near as powerful, and dum ****s like u which there are many say he got beaten by buster and evander meanign dat he has weak chin. remember, anyman can knock u if he gets 500+ punchs on u, roy jones only been dropped twice, now are u gona sya he has steel chin? IDIOTS< MUTHA***ER
        Everything in the bold is completely pointless type.
        Originally posted by Pugnacious_Z
        anyman can knock u if he gets 500+ punchs on u, roy jones only been dropped twice, now are u gona sya he has steel chin?
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        • #54
          Originally posted by Pugnacious_Z
          all i can say is GO EAT A **** skydog, ur dumb, dats it. marciano is 85kg, tyson was 100kg, marcian is nowhere near as powerful, and dum ****s like u which there are many say he got beaten by buster and evander meanign dat he has weak chin. remember, anyman can knock u if he gets 500+ punchs on u, roy jones only been dropped twice, now are u gona sya he has steel chin? IDIOTS< MUTHA***ER
          While I definately agree on the chin part, Tyson had an excellent chin, I very much disagree on the power part.

          Valuev almost weighs 150kg, does that mean he hits harder than Tyson? By your logic, it does! Dempsey and Marciano were freaks of nature in terms of power for their size. Size does NOT determine power. Ali weighed more that Dempsey.. so he must hit harder right?

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Skydog
            Okay, first and foremost, Mike Tyson is without a doubt a good boxer. He hit hard, had quick hands, and had a solid chin. At one time, he was one of my favorite boxers.

            But then pieces of **** on this site come and just make me want to go against him. People say he can hit the hardest, has a very good chin, and is the greatest of all-time.

            First of all, no way in hell does Tyson hit the hardest. Liston, Cooney, and Marciano (to name a few) could all hit harder than Tyson. And then, of course, you have George Foreman. I've actually heard people say Tyson hit harder than George. First of all, George lifted Joe Frazier off of his feet with and uppercut. And that was an uppercut with no body or ground behind it. That was Foreman just throwing his arm upwards. That's ****ing power. Tyson always used his full body when throwing an uppercut, but I never saw him knock anyone off of their feet! Joe Frazier, Joe Louis, and Jack Dempsey hit just as hard as Tyson. Frazier hit Chuvalo with a left hook that TORE HIS ****ING EYE OUT OF IT'S SOCKET. Tyson's left hook can't compare to the feroctiy and fire of Joe's left hook. Louis and Dempsey's handspeed is better than Tyson, with just as much power. Louis's uppercuts were much more brutal than Tyson's.

            People have said that Tyson has a better chin than Joe Frazier. This almost as bad as saying that he hit as hard as Foreman. Joe went 42 rounds with Ali, who hit much harder than most people thought and was nailing Joe with some of the hardest and fastest combinations he's ever thrown in those 3 fights. He never floored Joe once. Joe was hit a few times by Quarry's deadly right, but it didn't shake him and he beat the hell out of him. Bonavena floored Joe twice, but Joe went another 8 rounds and won the fight. If you want to criticize Joe for his performance against George, it was only the hardest hitting champion of all-time. No big deal. Tyson has fought Holyfield and Douglas, both of who are not considered punchers, and was beaten to a pulp by them. Tyson quit to ****ing Kevin McBride.

            Joe Louis, Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Jack Dempsey, and Rocky Marciano would all have given Tyson a hell of a beating and would have pounded respect for them into his mind with their fists.

            I'm sorry that these people have stripped my feelings towards Tyson down to this, but these Tyson fanatics have driven nothing but anger and hate towards Tyson, which I don't like because he was a great boxer.

            Marciano? You've got to be kidding me, he couldn't hit for ****. Tyson almost punched twice as hard as him, and that is a FACT no an opinion

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            • #56
              Originally posted by KidBlackie
              Yes, Tyson was one of the most skilled heavies in history. He certainly had more skills than Ali.
              kill yourself.

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              • #57
                Tyson was devastating, but flawed in the end

                I don't know if Tyson hit harder than Marciano or vice versa. How can anyone who hasn't taken their punches. All I know is that Tyson was a devastating finisher with the ability to knock any great heavyweight out with one clean punch. His attacks were also measured and calculated, putting all his power into each shot, whether it was to the body, the side of the head, or the chin. Second to his finishing skills were his defensive skills. Tyson kept his hands up and rarely got caught with clean shots. If he did, he had a granite chin to back it up. As far as his footwork goes, he never danced and rarely tried to win by decision. However, if his defensive skills didn't disappear we may be looking at a heavyweight in the top three all time.

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                • #58
                  Prime Tyson was a thing of beauty.His physical skills were great.It's his mental skills that were lacking.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Left Hook King
                    Marciano? You've got to be kidding me, he couldn't hit for ****. Tyson almost punched twice as hard as him, and that is a FACT no an opinion
                    Marciano lacked in skills and technique.But he certainly was a hard puncher.He wouldn't have got very far if he wasn't.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Hard Boiled HK
                      What's with all the hate for Tyson? I just don't see the reasoning.
                      I think its because of all the nuthuggers, they overrate Tyson to the extrem but I can understand because when I didnt know a thing about boxing I thought Tyson was the best ever too.

                      Tyson is a top 10 without a doubt I have him around 6 myself.

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