Tyson's Talents Are Way Overrated

[KingDosia]

Okay, first and foremost, Mike Tyson is without a doubt a good boxer. He hit hard, had quick hands, and had a solid chin. At one time, he was one of my favorite boxers.

But then pieces of **** on this site come and just make me want to go against him. People say he can hit the hardest, has a very good chin, and is the greatest of all-time.

First of all, no way in hell does Tyson hit the hardest. Liston, Cooney, and Marciano (to name a few) could all hit harder than Tyson. And then, of course, you have George Foreman. I've actually heard people say Tyson hit harder than George. First of all, George lifted Joe Frazier off of his feet with and uppercut. And that was an uppercut with no body or ground behind it. That was Foreman just throwing his arm upwards. That's ****ing power. Tyson always used his full body when throwing an uppercut, but I never saw him knock anyone off of their feet! Joe Frazier, Joe Louis, and Jack Dempsey hit just as hard as Tyson. Frazier hit Chuvalo with a left hook that TORE HIS ****ING EYE OUT OF IT'S SOCKET. Tyson's left hook can't compare to the feroctiy and fire of Joe's left hook. Louis and Dempsey's handspeed is better than Tyson, with just as much power. Louis's uppercuts were much more brutal than Tyson's.

People have said that Tyson has a better chin than Joe Frazier. This almost as bad as saying that he hit as hard as Foreman. Joe went 42 rounds with Ali, who hit much harder than most people thought and was nailing Joe with some of the hardest and fastest combinations he's ever thrown in those 3 fights. He never floored Joe once. Joe was hit a few times by Quarry's deadly right, but it didn't shake him and he beat the hell out of him. Bonavena floored Joe twice, but Joe went another 8 rounds and won the fight. If you want to criticize Joe for his performance against George, it was only the hardest hitting champion of all-time. No big deal. Tyson has fought Holyfield and Douglas, both of who are not considered punchers, and was beaten to a pulp by them. Tyson quit to ****ing Kevin McBride.

Joe Louis, Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Jack Dempsey, and Rocky Marciano would all have given Tyson a hell of a beating and would have pounded respect for them into his mind with their fists.

I'm sorry that these people have stripped my feelings towards Tyson down to this, but these Tyson fanatics have driven nothing but anger and hate towards Tyson, which I don't like because he was a great boxer.

Tysons skills over rated? Hmm. The world fell in love with Tyson because he was somthing that they have never seen. I stress never. Cus Demato "who consequently trained Ali" was so amazed with the raw talent of a young Tyson he dove head first into this kids career without even thinking about it. Would you have the balls to say you know more about fighting skills than Cus?
Teddy Atlas loathed Tyson due to his arrogance. But has never downed his Skills, Would you also argue with Teddy Atlas? It's easy to talk **** about Iron Mike now he threw it all away. Yes the likes of Frazier, Foreman, Ali, Liston, Dempsy and Marciano had some impressive talents, but each individualy, Who besides Mike did it all? Answer none of them. Frazier and Foreman had the power Mike did Not the speed. Same for Liston and Marciano. Ali while faster on his feet and with his hands didn't hit as hard. Tysons legacy. his power came so fast and so percise. The world was in Awe So was you. It's easy to hate him now, but b real. Nothing has been over rated about the baddest man on the planet. "why did they give him that name"

[Piggu]

kill yourself.

We can help him.

[Piggu]

I think its because of all the nuthuggers, they overrate Tyson to the extrem but I can understand because when I didnt know a thing about boxing I thought Tyson was the best ever too.

Tyson is a top 10 without a doubt I have him around 6 myself.

Yeah like when they say "Tyson Easily Outboxes Muhammmad Ali over the 15-round distance, using his legs to outmanuever Ali."

[catskills23]

Marciano? You've got to be kidding me, he couldn't hit for ****. Tyson almost punched twice as hard as him, and that is a FACT no an opinion

how is it a fact?.

[Piggu]

how is it a fact?.

I know huh? Stats Please.

[The Noose]

But then pieces of **** on this site come and just make me want to go against him.


I'm sorry that these people have stripped my feelings towards Tyson down to this, but these Tyson fanatics have driven nothing but anger and hate towards Tyson, which I don't like because he was a great boxer.

So because people say obviously ****** things about Tyson, ur opinion of him lowers?
Sorry, but thats ******.

If i kept saying Ali had five legs, would u start to believe he only had one?

U should have more faith in ur own opinions and not let niave posters sway u.

[Dye]

What's with all the hate for Tyson? I just don't see the reasoning.

because he is a jackass that when frustrated bites ears or trys to break peoples arms

[K-DOGG]

Okay, first and foremost, Mike Tyson is without a doubt a good boxer. He hit hard, had quick hands, and had a solid chin. At one time, he was one of my favorite boxers.

But then pieces of **** on this site come and just make me want to go against him. People say he can hit the hardest, has a very good chin, and is the greatest of all-time.

First of all, no way in hell does Tyson hit the hardest. Liston, Cooney, and Marciano (to name a few) could all hit harder than Tyson. And then, of course, you have George Foreman. I've actually heard people say Tyson hit harder than George. First of all, George lifted Joe Frazier off of his feet with and uppercut. And that was an uppercut with no body or ground behind it. That was Foreman just throwing his arm upwards. That's ****ing power. Tyson always used his full body when throwing an uppercut, but I never saw him knock anyone off of their feet! Joe Frazier, Joe Louis, and Jack Dempsey hit just as hard as Tyson. Frazier hit Chuvalo with a left hook that TORE HIS ****ING EYE OUT OF IT'S SOCKET. Tyson's left hook can't compare to the feroctiy and fire of Joe's left hook. Louis and Dempsey's handspeed is better than Tyson, with just as much power. Louis's uppercuts were much more brutal than Tyson's.

People have said that Tyson has a better chin than Joe Frazier. This almost as bad as saying that he hit as hard as Foreman. Joe went 42 rounds with Ali, who hit much harder than most people thought and was nailing Joe with some of the hardest and fastest combinations he's ever thrown in those 3 fights. He never floored Joe once. Joe was hit a few times by Quarry's deadly right, but it didn't shake him and he beat the hell out of him. Bonavena floored Joe twice, but Joe went another 8 rounds and won the fight. If you want to criticize Joe for his performance against George, it was only the hardest hitting champion of all-time. No big deal. Tyson has fought Holyfield and Douglas, both of who are not considered punchers, and was beaten to a pulp by them. Tyson quit to ****ing Kevin McBride.

Joe Louis, Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Jack Dempsey, and Rocky Marciano would all have given Tyson a hell of a beating and would have pounded respect for them into his mind with their fists.

I'm sorry that these people have stripped my feelings towards Tyson down to this, but these Tyson fanatics have driven nothing but anger and hate towards Tyson, which I don't like because he was a great boxer.

I'm going to keep this brief...for a change.

1. Don't let your loathing of fanatics cloud your vision.

2. Mike was THAT talented.

3. He did not hit as hard as Foreman or Shavers; but his power was above average.

4. His speed was well above average...possibley close to being on par with Ali's and Patterson's; and his speed is what generated his power.

5. His chin was well above average. This was apparent after he quit moving his head as much and began taking more shots....and, yes, it was better than Frazier's.

6. His defense and head-movement in his prime was superb; he was very hard to hit....which left countering openings against his opponents...one of his strengths.

7. Mike Tyson had the physical talent to be the GOAT; believe it. His mental instability eventually did him in. Once his core emotional support group evaporated or was dispersed, he was left with himself and a group of leeches who he neither trusted, believed in, or helped him. He was naked and alone against the world; and he just wasn't strong enough to maintain momentum without support.....but the talent was there.

[Hard Boiled HK]

Marciano? You've got to be kidding me, he couldn't hit for ****. Tyson almost punched twice as hard as him, and that is a FACT no an opinion

Well damn, that's a fact? Define "fact". List three references that states this as a "fact".

By the way, don't ever be a lawyer. You won't impress the jury.

[Kid Achilles]

Marciano? You've got to be kidding me, he couldn't hit for ****. Tyson almost punched twice as hard as him, and that is a FACT no an opinion

You're a ****ing moron, please get off the site. That was such a moronic comment that you should be banned immediately before your ******ity spreads to anyone else. What you said is like calling Ali slow and heavy footed or saying Marvin Hagler had a glass jaw.