Without his height, Klitschko would have been too small for David Haye.
You're really circling the drain at this point.
Fools...no helping them I guess. We are talking about SKILLS, fools! Foreman had next to none, thats the issue! Frazier, Ali, Norton, they could all be his professors in boxing.
A good jab??! Is that why Dundee always had to remind him to jab during the Holyfield fight?! LOL! The words Foreman and jab don't hang together. I think you are mixing up his pushing away of opponents with jabbing.
Yes, a good jab. He was also very good at hiding the straight right behind it which is exactly how he knocked out Moorer.
Burley is a great fighter!!! But its all about criterias. If you have a criteria like longevity of title reign , Burley falls short( through no fault of his).. I will like people to have him in their top 10 though...
Jab...Fitz did quite a bit at middle weight
Non pareil Jack Dempsey was a living legend of the sport. The Black Pearl Harris Martin was a coloured Champion, Peter Maher was actually a legitimate World Heavyweight Contender. In 1893 he knocked out the very tough Jim Hall, who had beaten him earlier in his career and KOd him in 4. He also KOd several other fighters in less than 4 rounds.
He held the middleweight title five years and never lost it, moving up to the higher weights, where he performed exceptionally well too. You cannot say the same about many middle weight champs in history.
Let us not forget also, that after Fitz' retirement to become the heavyweight champion, no middleweight chaampion emerged until 1898 so technically this would have made fitz reign as long as Hagler and Monzons and the longest ever.
He was probably the best middleweight in the world for much longer, as he could have always made the weight and even when way past his prime, he was still beating light heavyweight all time greats like Philladelphi Jack Obrien
Fitz did not lose honestly in a fight from the Hall fight in 1890 to the O'Brien fight in 1905, except for the two ko's by the massive Jeffries.
I think in h2h in middle weight he ranks high. Though it all depends on the person forming the list.
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Burley is a great fighter!!! But its all about criterias. If you have a criteria like longetivity of title reign etc, Burley falls short( through no fault of his).. I will like people to have him in their top 10 though...
I guess so.
Still, I think he did enough to be considered a Top 10 MW regardless.
I mean, he beat alot of great fighters during his career.
A good jab??! Is that why Dundee always had to remind him to jab during the Holyfield fight?! LOL! The words Foreman and jab don't hang together. I think you are mixing up his pushing away of opponents with jabbing.
If you're dumb enough to believe Foreman jabbed only because of Dundee that speaks for itself. And yes Foreman used a very powerful accurate jab during his comeback. He always had a good powerful jab. Just check out how he used it against your hero Chuvalo. Step away from your agenda for once. For your sake it better be an agenda. If not it's just ignorance.
Burley is a great fighter!!! But its all about criterias. If you have a criteria like longevity of title reign , Burley falls short( through no fault of his).. I will like people to have him in their top 10 though...
Jab...Fitz did quite a bit at middle weight
Non pareil Jack Dempsey was a living legend of the sport. The Black Pearl Harris Martin was a coloured Champion, Peter Maher was actually a legitimate World Heavyweight Contender. In 1893 he knocked out the very tough Jim Hall, who had beaten him earlier in his career and KOd him in 4. He also KOd several other fighters in less than 4 rounds.
He held the middleweight title five years and never lost it, moving up to the higher weights, where he performed exceptionally well too. You cannot say the same about many middle weight champs in history.
Let us not forget also, that after Fitz' retirement to become the heavyweight champion, no middleweight chaampion emerged until 1898 so technically this would have made fitz reign as long as Hagler and Monzons and the longest ever.
He was probably the best middleweight in the world for much longer, as he could have always made the weight and even when way past his prime, he was still beating light heavyweight all time greats like Philladelphi Jack Obrien
Fitz did not lose honestly in a fight from the Hall fight in 1890 to the O'Brien fight in 1905, except for the two ko's by the massive Jeffries.
I think in h2h in middle weight he ranks high. Though it all depends on the person forming the list.
Yeah man Fitz was a bad ass. Nonpareil was pretty ****ing bad as **** himself, and he doesn't seem to get much love here either....busy talking about HW and what not...IMO MW Jack Dempsey is p4p trump over any HW.
If you're dumb enough to believe Foreman jabbed only because of Dundee that speaks for itself. And yes Foreman used a very powerful accurate jab during his comeback. He always had a good powerful jab. Just check out how he used it against your hero Chuvalo. Step away from your agenda for once. For your sake it better be an agenda. If not it's just ignorance.
I saw the original version of your post.....Big Green from me when it lets me hit you again
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