Ike Ibeabuchi-what if?

[Scott9945]

if this was Ike vs Tyson instead of vs Lewis you would be the first to claim IKe would dish out a beating to Tyson ... talk about double-standards.

Actually it can't be a double standard if I never actually said that. And I didn't.

Tyson was in decline in the late 90's and vulnerable to someone like Ibeabuchi. But more than likely I would pick Mike based on his superior big fight experience. And since I plainly think that Lewis was a better fighter than Tyson in the late 90's, you really have no point anyway.

[Scott9945]

Scott either didnt see the McCall fight or he just is a major Lewis nuthugger. McCall was actually beating Lewis in the first 2 rounds before the trauma set in. McCall was naturally more talented than Lewis-yes, I say that! Its his coke addiction that didn't let him build a legacy and a solid career once he won the belt. But he has proved himself after that with a few impressive performances, such as koing Akinwande himself with one punch, koing Maskaev in one round and beating Oquendo at 45.

And about Golota, he was far from a bum but he just couldnt keep it together. Dunno what his problem was, but he was seriously faked up in the head. Lewis was/is a lumbering bear who thanks to his big reach was able to land punches he otherwise never could. His balance, speed and footwork were all bad. He was so incomplete, McCall was ten times more complete. And above all-Lewis fought dirty. He was famous for holding and hitting and he obviously headbutted Vitali coz he was behind in the fight. He just wanted to stop him, at any cost.

Wow, any credibility you had just went down the toilet.

McCall lost every round on two of the scorecards, and won only one on the other. That is a fact, not an opinion. The trauma set in when he realized he was about to get his butt kicked.

What you said about Golota is simply gibberish. The part in bold must have come from Sonny's textbook.

And if Lewis "obviously headbutted Vitali", can you supply any footage to prove that? It was ruled to be caused by a punch, and the only other possibility would have been Lewis' scraping VK's face instead of punch.

Sorry, but this was a really bad post stuffed with bullspit.

[JAB5239]

Anyway Sonny, hope you don't get banned coz i've been trying to convince others that you don't really hate Lewis and it's all just a big wind-up lol

Oh no, he finished in this section. Anything he posts is gone. He's been saying he was going to leave through 3 alts now, so now I will oblige him. When he comes back again that alt will be turned away. Dude is a straight up troll who when he isn't flat out lying is spewing misinformation and has serious issues with those who disagree with him and prove him wrong.

[mickey malone]

Oh no, he finished in this section. Anything he posts is gone. He's been saying he was going to leave through 3 alts now, so now I will oblige him. When he comes back again that alt will be turned away. Dude is a straight up troll who when he isn't flat out lying is spewing misinformation and has serious issues with those who disagree with him and prove him wrong.

Lol, as you know, he'd just submitted a post explaining why he didn't hate Lewis and i was going backwards and forwards wondering where it had gone.

Obviously i can't comment, as i don't know what he's heen up to while i was away, but he had some fascinating arguments.

R.I.P Sonnyboy

[Holtol]

Lol, as you know, he'd just submitted a post explaining why he didn't hate Lewis and i was going backwards and forwards wondering where it had gone.

Obviously i can't comment, as i don't know what he's heen up to while i was away, but he had some fascinating arguments.

R.I.P Sonnyboy

I think he created a lot of debate and was very knowledgeable and he was voted the best poster by quite a few people. And although some people may think his rating of Lewis was extream it was no more extream then Jabs who rates him at 5. And many people would rate Lewis closer to where Sonnyboy has him rated as opposed to Jab. I think in reality Lewis is closer to a 15 where Sonny boy rates him then at 5 where Jab rates him. I think Jab is just mad because Sonny boy makes good points why Lewis was not a top 10 heavyweight.

[RubenSonny]

I think he created a lot of debate and was very knowledgeable and he was voted the best poster by quite a few people. And although some people may think his rating of Lewis was extream it was no more extream then Jabs who rates him at 5. And many people would rate Lewis closer to where Sonnyboy has him rated as opposed to Jab. I think in reality Lewis is closer to a 15 where Sonny boy rates him then at 5 where Jab rates him. I think Jab is just mad because Sonny boy makes good points why Lewis was not a top 10 heavyweight.

I don't think anyone has a problem with Sonnys rankings, in fact its a bit surprising that he even ranks him there.

[Barn]

Nah, it was because, every time the word "Lewis" was mentioned.

"Lewis is not...a top 10 atg youre a fraud if you think he is"

Everytime Bowe was mentioned.

"Did you know lewis wanted extreme purses."

"poleaxed"

[Holtol]

I don't think anyone has a problem with Sonnys rankings, in fact its a bit surprising that he even ranks him there.

He may have debated a little to passiionetely in some peoples opinion. But I would rather have passionate debaters then people just quietly agreeing. I learned a lot from Sonny Boys posts and also the counter posts by Jab and others.

[The Surgeon]

He may have debated a little to passiionetely in some peoples opinion. But I would rather have passionate debaters then people just quietly agreeing. I learned a lot from Sonny Boys posts and also the counter posts by Jab and others.

Im with u Hotol, i enjoyed reading his posts and learned some stuff from both he and Jab during their arguments.

I think he was too harsh on Lewis who i openly hate but have to face reality and rate. But he made good arguements to back up his claims. Guy shoulda just kept his cool a bit more and not made things so personal and mabey he'd still get to post...

[The Surgeon]

Anyway i like Ike's odds against Lewis, not coz im a Lewis hater but because i believe Ibeabuchi had real promise and talent. He hit as hard as Rahman or McCall imo, was strong as an ox, decent sized, good skills, the chin to handle Lewis' vaunted right hand, and the workrate to make Lennox very uncomftable, i think he'd have stopped him personally.