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  • #11
    Originally posted by Holtol View Post
    Like you, I used to think because he struggled with Tua that Lewis would beat him.

    No offence Jab, you are entitled to your opinion but compared to most people you overrate Lewis. Most people don't have Lewis so high on their list heavyweights.
    That is fine, as it is only my opinion my friend. What I have stated about Ibeabuchi is a fact, is it not?

    Ps-if you go through the entire heavyweight greats thread you will see the vast majority have Lewis in their top 10. Just saying..

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    • #12
      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
      That is fine, as it is only my opinion my friend. What I have stated about Ibeabuchi is a fact, is it not?

      Ps-if you go through the entire heavyweight greats thread you will see the vast majority have Lewis in their top 10. Just saying..
      Jab, you are quite big on longevity aren't you?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by -D33Pwaters- View Post
        Jab, you are quite big on longevity aren't you?
        When concerning all time greatness I think its a big factor, yes.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
          That is fine, as it is only my opinion my friend. What I have stated about Ibeabuchi is a fact, is it not?

          [COLOR="YellowGreen"]Its true, but I could type some true things about Lewis resume that I think show that Ike would beat Lewis. But I am not going to becuase I don't care enough right now to put the energy into it. If you really want me to exsplain it I will.

          Ps-if you go through the entire heavyweight greats thread you will see the vast majority have Lewis in their top 10. Just saying..
          [/COLOR]
          I have been looking at more lists lately and I think the average rating for Lewis might be somewhere around 8. If I remember correctly you have Lewis at number 4.
          Last edited by Holtol; 04-28-2011, 01:05 PM.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Holtol View Post
            I have been looking at more lists lately and I think the average rating for Lewis might be somewhere around 8. If I remember correctly you have Lewis at number 4.
            I haven't checked in awhile. I thought I had him at 5, but 4 could be correct. Either way its an opinion that coincides with many others even if off by a few spots. And as I said, its just MY opinion and subject to change day to day.

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            • #16
              Its true, but I could type some true things about Lewis resume that I think show that Ike would beat Lewis. But I am not going to becuase I don't care enough right now to put the energy into it. If you really want me to exsplain it I will.

              If you don't mind, I would like to hear your opinions.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                I haven't checked in awhile. I thought I had him at 5, but 4 could be correct. Either way its an opinion that coincides with many others even if off by a few spots. And as I said, its just MY opinion and subject to change day to day.
                Referring to the quote in your signature, is the 15-20 position reasonable?

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                • #18
                  Who did Lewis beat in his second title reign?? Lets see his list: first McCall-quit crying, emotional wreck from ******* at the time. Then Akinwande and his hugging episode, Lewis got another free win by dq. Golota had suffered a panic attack right before their fight and was injected with LYDOCAINE, later he had to be revived on the way to hospital after the fight. Not from the ko, but the lydocaine. FAK, did this guy have luck or what??!! I mean Lewis. Then Briggs, who as we know got no skills, he's all power and he nearly stopped Lewis in the first round. Credit to Lewis for regaining his composure, but it was not that hard since Briggs has asthma and was done after the first 2 rounds. Then my man Zeljko Mavrovic, who accidentally weighed less for his fight with Lewis than ANY previous fight since he turned pro. Blame it on his silly macro diet. He gave Lewis some very rough time, but was ultimately too weakened to pull off an upset.

                  The Holyfield fights were his probably best outings, but mostly because Holyfield was already past it and had stamina problems. Then he beat a coupla bums in Grant and Botha and had no major problems against the 5'9 Tua. The Rahman fight 2 was a good performance, but he was hungry for revenge and Rahman was proven overated since. Then the Tyson farce came and then Vitali K beat him up but he got cut by either a punch or headbutt or likely both. Thats it. I don't hate Lewis but I find him grossly overated by many people, most of them British.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by -D33Pwaters- View Post
                    Referring to the quote in your signature, is the 15-20 position reasonable?

                    In my opinion it is ridiculous. What do you think?

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                      I haven't checked in awhile. I thought I had him at 5, but 4 could be correct. Either way its an opinion that coincides with many others even if off by a few spots. And as I said, its just MY opinion and subject to change day to day.
                      I just thought that maybe the difference in opinion of who would win Ike vs Lewis might be that you think Lewis is better then I do. You said I am overrating Ibeabuchi because I think he would beat Lewis. Are difference of opinion could be in how good we think Lewis is and not Ibeabuchi. I was just wondering if there was some confusion. I am not going to argue about Lewis resume though just because its been gone over so much.

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