You don't lose 20 pounds in your mid 30s and be the same. Roy clearly lost his reflexes and explosiveness when he came back down from heavy. Roy should have stayed at heavy/cruiser he could have extended his prime another 3 years or so.
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Originally posted by pacquia0 View PostThe amateurs and the pros are diferent things. Whitaker started with low level professional fights as well. Chavez wasnt near any of those peaks due to him losing his desire for the sport and not training as hard. Drug/alcohol addiction.
Obviously as a whitaker nuthugger you dont understand simple logic.
First off I couldn't stand Whitaker but can appreciate his career. Second, any world class amateur is better than some guy with 15 or 20 amateur fights who decides to just up and turn pro. Its why you hear about Olympians fighting for championships after 15 or 20 fights and never hear of the taxi cab driver fighting part time getting that shot in the same amount of time. Whitaker was fighting world class professionals in his 14th fight, Chavez in his 43rd. If anybody should have had wear and tear it should have been Pea.
And you still haven't shown me the fight where Chavez showed a significan fall off. Im still waiting.Last edited by JAB5239; 04-19-2011, 09:58 PM.
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
First off I couldn't stand Whitaker but can appreciate his career. Second, any world class amateur is better than some guy with 15 or 20 amateur fights who decides to just up and turn pro. Its why you hear about Olympians fighting for championships after 15 or 20 fights and never hear of the taxi cab driver fighting part time getting that shot in the same amount of time. Whitaker was fighting world class professionals in his 14th fight, Chavez in his 43rd. If anybody should have had wear and tear it should have been Pea.
And you still haven't shown me the fight where Chavez showed a significan fall off. Im still waiting.
Ive said Chavez was on a gradual decline. Even the Chavez who dominated Camacho didnt have the conditoning or ring movement of old. There is no fight in particular but the Rosario fight was his peek.
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Originally posted by pacquia0 View PostWhitaker's style takes alot less punishment than Chavez. Chavez fought more championship rounds/title fights than Whitaker did. Whitaker had the chance to move up and fight Chavez 3 years earlier but choose to hide at lightweight.
Ive said Chavez was on a gradual decline. Even the Chavez who dominated Camacho didnt have the conditoning or ring movement of old. There is no fight in particular but the Rosario fight was his peek.
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I think Chavez was great and still operating at The or around the top of his game when he faced Sweet Pea but there is no way on gods green earth that he won that fight. Whittaker was just a better fighter than Chaves was and thats that, end of. STILL tho i make Roy Jones the fighter of the 90's he was a master in there and unlike Whittaker he could end a fight with one shot, Prime Roy was so explosive. His speed is unrivaled, his reflex's unhuman and he had a great fighting brain too.
Roy and sweet Pea are for me tho definately the 1 and 1A fighters of there era.
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
First off I couldn't stand Whitaker but can appreciate his career. Second, any world class amateur is better than some guy with 15 or 20 amateur fights who decides to just up and turn pro. Its why you hear about Olympians fighting for championships after 15 or 20 fights and never hear of the taxi cab driver fighting part time getting that shot in the same amount of time. Whitaker was fighting world class professionals in his 14th fight, Chavez in his 43rd. If anybody should have had wear and tear it should have been Pea.
And you still haven't shown me the fight where Chavez showed a significan fall off. Im still waiting.
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Originally posted by Barnburner View PostHow can you not stand Whitaker? I think he's brilliant. lol.
I just disliked his style and the way he would showboat. I still appreciate his greatness and how effective he was in spite of that. As you said, he was brilliant. It just didn't translate into what I look for in a fighter though.
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Originally posted by poet682006 View PostThe way you're nuthugging on McGirt? That's the only way anyone could score that fight for Buddy: If they were watching through nuthugging fan-boi lenses :yadayadayada9:
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Originally posted by sonnyboywhat you look for in a fighter seems to be, dreadlocks a glass chin and two left-feet.. Whitaker was the universal P4P No1 for a whole decade and was world class in his first professional fight so there was never no learning process with him, he had it all right from the off and was a joy to watch.. but like so many other Legendary fighters he will be thrown to the History section garbage can by you in favor of your favorite fighters Lewis, Tua & Tommy Morrison
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Originally posted by sonnyboywhat you look for in a fighter seems to be, dreadlocks a glass chin and two left-feet.. Whitaker was the universal P4P No1 for a whole decade and was world class in his first professional fight so there was never no learning process with him, he had it all right from the off and was a joy to watch.. but like so many other Legendary fighters he will be thrown to the History section garbage can by you in favor of your favorite fighters Lewis, Tua & Tommy Morrison
http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...r_Pound--1990s
Second, If you want to keep trolling and trying to provoke me I'll be happy to ban you completely from this section. You're welcome to keep posting in this section, but consider this fair warning because there won't be another one.
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