Best fighters of the 90's?

[Pastrano]

First off Whitaker was NOT the universal p4p no.1 fighter for a "whole decade". So once again you've either lied or don't know what you're talking about.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...r_Pound--1990s

Second, If you want to keep trolling and trying to provoke me I'll be happy to ban you completely from this section. You're welcome to keep posting in this section, but consider this fair warning because there won't be another one.

You gave me a red K, understandably, but I wanna give u a green K now. Lets join our forces against these Pernellhuggers! I believe Chavez would beat him at 140, he never proved himself at 147 and its a fact. He didn't like fighting above 140 and Whitaker knew this. Lets see who their common opponents where and how they did against them: against MAYWEATHER Whitaker struggled and was knocked down, tho he won the fight and scored a kd himself but still he had a much tougher time than JCC. Chavez DESTROYED Roger twice. Against Ramirez Whitaker lost, I don't care what you say about it, it was a LOSS. Whitaker ran away the whole fight and deserved to lose. JCC stopped Ramirez in 11 and tho it was a competitive fight, he was in control the whole way. Greg Haugen went the distance with Whitaker and lost a wide decision. I've since read that Haugen didn't really make an effort because he was pissed off at his management. Chavez stopped Haugen in 5.

Btw, why didn't Whitaker fight Meldrick Taylor or Camacho?? I think he ducked Camacho in the 80's, while both were lightweights and Camacho called him out publicly after the Ramirez fight, back in '85. Chavez beat both ofc.

[JAB5239]

feel free....

Fine, have it your way.

[IronDanHamza]

You gave me a red K, understandably, but I wanna give u a green K now. Lets join our forces against these Pernellhuggers! I believe Chavez would beat him at 140, he never proved himself at 147 and its a fact. He didn't like fighting above 140 and Whitaker knew this. Lets see who their common opponents where and how they did against them: against MAYWEATHER Whitaker struggled and was knocked down, tho he won the fight and scored a kd himself but still he had a much tougher time than JCC. Chavez DESTROYED Roger twice. Against Ramirez Whitaker lost, I don't care what you say about it, it was a LOSS. Whitaker ran away the whole fight and deserved to lose. JCC stopped Ramirez in 11 and tho it was a competitive fight, he was in control the whole way. Greg Haugen went the distance with Whitaker and lost a wide decision. I've since read that Haugen didn't really make an effort because he was pissed off at his management. Chavez stopped Haugen in 5.

Btw, why didn't Whitaker fight Meldrick Taylor or Camacho?? I think he ducked Camacho in the 80's, while both were lightweights and Camacho called him out publicly after the Ramirez fight, back in '85. Chavez beat both ofc.

It seems to me, Pastrano, that you have a blatent agenda against Pernell Whitaker.

Whitaker in no way shape or form struggled with Roger Mayweather, he pretty much dominated him from start to finish and the KD was more to do with balance and Whitaker wasn't even slightly hurt by the KD.

Whitaker clealry beat Ramirez the first time. You using that against Whitaker and saying he deserved to lose indicates a clear agenda. He did not deserve to lose because he dominated Ramirez, no if's or but's.

I haven't read that anywhere what you sai about Haugen and don't recall it at the time either, but I may be wrong so feel free to provide a link concluding that statment.

Your also trying to imply Whitaker didn't beat Chavez, I mean, seriously?

[RubenSonny]

Actually, I did mention that Whitaker wasnt at his best either.

and I agree, Chavez would always lose to Whitaker, although their fight would have been even better had they fought at Lightweight, when they both were at their best.

Your post was loaded.

[RubenSonny]

It seems to me, Pastrano, that you have a blatent agenda against Pernell Whitaker.

Whitaker in no way shape or form struggled with Roger Mayweather, he pretty much dominated him from start to finish and the KD was more to do with balance and Whitaker wasn't even slightly hurt by the KD.

Whitaker clealry beat Ramirez the first time. You using that against Whitaker and saying he deserved to lose indicates a clear agenda. He did not deserve to lose because he domianted Ramirez, no if's or but's.

I haven't read that anywhere what you sai about Haugen and don't recall it at the time either, but I may be wrong so feel free to provide a link concluding that statment.

Your also trying to imply Whitaker didn't beat Chavez, I mean, seriously?

Mayweather troubled Chavez.

[IronDanHamza]

Mayweather troubled Chavez.

Which further concludes his agenda.

Anyone who claims Whitaker didn't beat Chavez probably has an agenda.

But ANYONE who even contemplates that Whitaker didn't beat Ramirez or struggled with Roger Mayweather has an agenda.

I wouldn't say he troubled Chavez, Chavez always seemed in control of what he wanted to do and put a beating on Mayweather for the most part. But, Mayweather did have his moments in the fight, if that's what you mean.

[Pastrano]

It seems to me, Pastrano, that you have a blatent agenda against Pernell Whitaker.

Whitaker in no way shape or form struggled with Roger Mayweather, he pretty much dominated him from start to finish and the KD was more to do with balance and Whitaker wasn't even slightly hurt by the KD.

Whitaker clealry beat Ramirez the first time. You using that against Whitaker and saying he deserved to lose indicates a clear agenda. He did not deserve to lose because he dominated Ramirez, no if's or but's.

I haven't read that anywhere what you sai about Haugen and don't recall it at the time either, but I may be wrong so feel free to provide a link concluding that statment.

Your also trying to imply Whitaker didn't beat Chavez, I mean, seriously?

Where did I say that? I never said that. And here's that Haugen quote. Can't post the link coz this site obviously DISAPPROVES of that site, for some reason.

You lost that title the following year to Pernell Whitaker, thoughts?
Greg Haugen: I was pretty disappointed at that time with my management. They didn’t know boxing and I didn’t know much about the fight business. They were throwing me to the wolves every fight. I was mad, pissed off because I was the champ and I am fighting on the road again. It was kind of my protest fight, a boycott against management. I just didn’t throw many punches and lost.

[Pastrano]

Which further concludes his agenda.

Anyone who claims Whitaker didn't beat Chavez probably has an agenda.

But ANYONE who even contemplates that Whitaker didn't beat Ramirez or struggled with Roger Mayweather has an agenda.

I wouldn't say he troubled Chavez, Chavez always seemed in control of what he wanted to do and put a beating on Mayweather for the most part. But, Mayweather did have his moments in the fight, if that's what you mean.

Are you seriously gonna claim he didn't have ANY moments against Pernell??

[Vadrigar.]

pernell whitaker too low.

[RubenSonny]

Mayweather was winning after the first 6 rounds, not as comfortable as HBO made out, if I recall correctly, but he was winning, there wasn't much in it (in terms of points) going in to the 10th but obviously Chavez had took over at that point.