Vitali Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano

[bklynboy]

Lets not forget Locche, he is one of the special cases I think could be the best in any era.

Locche was awesome. What a pleasure to watch.

[IronDanHamza]

Lets not forget Locche, he is one of the special cases I think could be the best in any era.

Best of any area? He's not even the best fighter from his own era.

Locche is a great fighter. no doubt. But he's not 'could be the best in any era' great.

[Barn]

Rocky was dropped by others besides Moore.

And I think the K bros (not a fan BTW) have power equal or greater than Moore.
They knew when to retire Rocky. Rocky is kinda like a smaller, lesser version of prime pre-Douglas Tyson. Most of the HW champs starting with Liston would probably have beat the Rock. Too big, strong, fast, etc. and I certainly do not subscribe to the "curent generation would beat the older generation" philosophy. I try to judge these matters individually. E.g when Floyd says he'd beat SRR and SRL, as a welterweight, I think that's ludicrous, as they were bigger, longer arms, better offense, better footwork, etc.

You obviously haven't watched much Moore or even looked at his record.

[StarshipTrooper]

What happened to the old adage that "a good big man beats a good little man."

Like every other cliche that floats around sports it has little practical validity.

Poet

[bklynboy]

Locche was awesome. What a pleasure to watch.

Best of any area? He's not even the best fighter from his own era.

Locche is a great fighter. no doubt. But he's not 'could be the best in any era' great.

No, but for pure skill, pure boxing mastery he surely is among the best. If he trained hard, didn't smoke between rounds, he would *probably* have been better. :-)

[IronDanHamza]

No, but for pure skill, pure boxing mastery he surely is among the best. If he trained hard, didn't smoke between rounds, he would *probably* have been better. :-)

Oh absolutely, skill wise he is arugablly up there with the best. But greatness isn't based off ability, of course.

That's the thing, though. Those things did happen, otherwise he would be a different fighter.

And I also think his lack of power would give him trouble in any era, and the fact he isn't the best in his own era tells me he most likely wouldn't be the best of any era.

[StarshipTrooper]

Oh absolutely, skill wise he is arugablly up there with the best. But greatness isn't based off ability, of course.

That's the thing, though. Those things did happen, otherwise he would be a different fighter.

And I also think his lack of power would give him trouble in any era, and the fact he isn't the best in his own era tells me he most likely wouldn't be the best of any era.

I seriously need to watch more Locche. At some point I'm going to have to really put the pedal down and search for his fights.....I only have one or two right now.

Poet

[IronDanHamza]

I seriously need to watch more Locche. At some point I'm going to have to really put the pedal down and search for his fights.....I only have one or two right now.

Poet

I used to have quite alot of footage of Locche when I was younger but I have lost most of them having moved around so many times since then and even then some of what I did have wasn't full length fights.

There is also a bit of footage of him on youtube too....as unsatisfying as the Youtube experience is.

[physiker]

You obviously haven't watched much Moore or even looked at his record.

You obviously do not know me or much else.

I've seen many fights Moore had, and I even saw the ones he had with 6'7" 250 pound guys.

[Barn]

You obviously do not know me or much else.

I've seen many fights Moore had, and I even saw the ones he had with 6'7" 250 pound guys.

You still stand by the claim that Klitchko's > Moore powerwise?