Vitali Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano

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  • RubenSonny
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    #101
    Originally posted by Spray_resistant
    Back it up with what? Its all just opinions like VK vs Rocky no one has anything to back any of it up with.
    Yeah and you should have something to be able to back up your opinion, stop playing dumb.

    When I watch old fighters who are classified as the best ever I am pretty unimpressed usually.
    Which fighters are you speaking of and who is classifying?

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    • Spray_resistant
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      #102
      Originally posted by RubenSonny
      Yeah and you should have something to be able to back up your opinion, stop playing dumb.

      So you don't have an answer other than biased opinions like the many used in this FF thread?



      Which fighters are you speaking of and who is classifying?
      Lets start with Rocky since he is the topic of this thread and he is viewed as one of the best HWs ever by ppl who post here not to mention apparently he would break down VK in 5 or 6 rounds.

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      • RubenSonny
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        #103
        Originally posted by Spray_resistant
        Lets start with Rocky since he is the topic of this thread and he is viewed as one of the best HWs ever by ppl who post here not to mention apparently he would break down VK in 5 or 6 rounds.
        Rocky did a lot more than VK, Quitali is a contender nothing more, thin resume, no doubt about that.

        So far you have one example...strong argument right there

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          #104
          Originally posted by Spray_resistant
          Lets start with Rocky since he is the topic of this thread and he is viewed as one of the best HWs ever by ppl who post here not to mention apparently he would break down VK in 5 or 6 rounds.
          Rocky is hard example. Even in his day he wasn't respected for his boxing skill. Didn't Walcott, before their first fight say that he couldn't lose as Rocky was too easy to hit - pretty much saying that Rocky was a bum?

          Rocky succeeded because of will and real KO power. Talk about skill from that era and before how about looking at Walcott and Archie Moore and Joe Louis and SRR and Henry Armstrong and Willie Pep. Each of these men, in my opinion, would have competed just fine in today's world.

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            #105
            Originally posted by RubenSonny
            Rocky did a lot more than VK, Quitali is a contender nothing more, thin resume, no doubt about that.

            So far you have one example...strong argument right there
            So him beating some older guys on their way out makes up for all of the disadvantages he would have physically and technically against VK?

            I mean I could imagine prime Tua being in his place during his time and posters here would be hyping him in FF matches about how he would ko Lewis in 1 or 2 rounds.

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              #106
              Originally posted by bklynboy
              Rocky is hard example. Even in his day he wasn't respected for his boxing skill. Didn't Walcott, before their first fight say that he couldn't lose as Rocky was too easy to hit - pretty much saying that Rocky was a bum?

              Rocky succeeded because of will and real KO power. Talk about skill from that era and before how about looking at Walcott and Archie Moore and Joe Louis and SRR and Henry Armstrong and Willie Pep. Each of these men, in my opinion, would have competed just fine in today's world.
              Lets not forget Locche, he is one of the special cases I think could be the best in any era.

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              • ChopperRead
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                #107
                Vitali by stoppage against the cruiserweight Marciano in a lopsided contest.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Barnburner
                  I'm sorry but, Vit does not have Archie Moore power.
                  Rocky was dropped by others besides Moore.

                  And I think the K bros (not a fan BTW) have power equal or greater than Moore.

                  They knew when to retire Rocky. Rocky is kinda like a smaller, lesser version of prime pre-Douglas Tyson. Most of the HW champs starting with Liston would probably have beat the Rock. Too big, strong, fast, etc. and I certainly do not subscribe to the "curent generation would beat the older generation" philosophy. I try to judge these matters individually. E.g when Floyd says he'd beat SRR and SRL, as a welterweight, I think that's ludicrous, as they were bigger, longer arms, better offense, better footwork, etc.

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                  • RubenSonny
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                    So him beating some older guys on their way out makes up for all of the disadvantages he would have physically and technically against VK?

                    I mean I could imagine prime Tua being in his place during his time and posters here would be hyping him in FF matches about how he would ko Lewis in 1 or 2 rounds.
                    .........So Marciano is your only argument for fighters being better now?

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                    • The_Demon
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                      #110
                      Looks like the Klithuggers are out in force today,im sorry guys but the klits arent that good,especially VK who has an extremely weak resume,the 'Marciano would be a CW today' argument wont cut it im afraid,size is only important when a fighter needs too have it in order too be effective,such as Wlad and Vitali

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