Roy Jones on his place in history

[AmericanEuro]

Not a very high place in history.

[SCtrojansbaby]

The problem for Roy wasn't really losing the weight, it was losing the weight at 35 years old.

[NChristo]

Already been debunked here:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...weight+drained

So where was it debunked ?, no one denied that he was weight drained in the thread all they said was that he's had weight issues his whole and it's no excuse as too why he lost which it's not since it was his responsibility and he agreed to 168.

[Vadrigar.]

So where was it debunked ?, no one denied that he was weight drained in the thread all they said was that he's had weight issues his whole and it's no excuse as too why he lost which it's not since it was his responsibility and he agreed to 168.

It has been debunked as shown in those posts because Toney was like that all the time. I got the impression you were singling out his fight with Jones, without looking at the context of his whole career.

[BigStereotype]

Not a very high place in history.

Could you define "not very high?" If you mean not top five LHW, that's debatable. But if you mean "Not an ATG"...not so sure about that.

[Toney616]

They couldn't figure out the $ for a B-Hop rematch

Hopkins wanted 50-50, Jones wanted 60-40 in his favor

and none of the european fights were realistic

How did you come to this conclusion?

[StarshipTrooper]

How did you come to this conclusion?

Because no one would want to broadcast Jones Vs a minor-leaguer.

Poet

[Toney616]

It has been debunked as shown in those posts because Toney was like that all the time.

Thats not true. He was definitely in shape for the Nunn, McCallum, McCallum II and the Reggie Johnson fights. It was after the Barkley fight that he really started to get lazy. Any time a boxer fluctuates that much from the day of the weigh in to the day of the fight something has definitively gone wrong.
His days at smw were finished when he couldnt even make the weight for a non title bout at cw against Vinsom Durham
It doesn't matter anyway seeing as how it was his responsibility to come in shape anyway.

[Toney616]

Because no one would want to broadcast Jones Vs a minor-leaguer.

Poet

There wasnt much interest for Jones-Collins. I think Benn-Jones would of been big news

[StarshipTrooper]

There wasnt much interest for Jones-Collins. I think Benn-Jones would of been big news

Against Benn sure.....the problem is the Euro names that get tossed about as Jones opponents are jokes like Dariusz Michalczewski and Sven Ottke.

Poet