Roy Jones on his place in history

[studentofthegam]

Considering his defeat at the hands of johnson and Tarver at LHW I think he's over stepping his boundaries and overrating his speed. Maybe he should talk strictly about SMW. Charles definitely beats that version of Roy (Tarver, Johnson).

[Daddy T]

...that people talk about James Toney as being a great fighter in his prime, and a guy who could be a great fighter in any era, yet RJJ at his best is considered to be beatable because he lost when he was clearly on the downslide.

As I recall, RJJ absolutely dominated a prime and in shape James Toney, and also beat Hopkins as well when Roy was not washed up.

How soon people forget how great he truly was by so many just because they see the washed up version of RJJ. That's like me basing my opinions on the shell of what was SRR based on his last few years as a fighter!

To talk about the RJJ that was beaten by Tarver and the RJJ since then is disgusting and ****** if you are talking about the best version of RJJ and how he'd stack up against the best of past era's IMO! .

yup the jones that fought toney would be a bloody tough match up for any middle to light heavy great of any period end of story. The people who insist on bringing up tarver and johnson are ******s, why not bring up ali's losses to holmes or berbeck as evidence that prime ali was not that good after all?

[RAV3N]

RJJ's palce in history is a PED user imo.

With that black mark agaist his name he cant be considered an ATG.

This is just my opinion, I know alot of you will disagree with my statement.

[Vadrigar.]

RJJ's palce in history is a PED user imo.

With that black mark agaist his name he cant be considered an ATG.

This is just my opinion, I know alot of you will disagree with my statement.

Well, not any boxer can do what he did by taking PED's, can they?

[BKM-2010]

He sounds so much like Muhammad Ali.

When they asked Ali how he would do against the past heavyweights he pretty much gave the same answer as Roy did here.

And I agree with both of them. If Roy foughts every LHW ever 3 times, he probably would have beaten everybody atleast once.

That's whats so great about prime RJJ. Because of his athletic ability and boxing skills he won't have a problem with a certain type of style. He can beat anybody. You would have to catch him beat him.

[Barn]

He seemed in a rush to get somewhere and couldn't be arsed answering questions. Could explain his replys.

[IronDanHamza]

Considering his defeat at the hands of johnson and Tarver at LHW I think he's over stepping his boundaries and overrating his speed. Maybe he should talk strictly about SMW. Charles definitely beats that version of Roy (Tarver, Johnson).

I think we should consider the 96-98 version of Roy when talking about fantasy fights at 175 as opposed to the 2004 version considering the weight loss had a clear effect on him and showed quite a dramatic decline.

But I agree with you're post I also believe he is stepping his boundries a little saying speed is all it takes to beat the greats he is referring to. Although I believe he's competitive with most at LHW.

At 168, it's another story. I don't see anyone beating Roy Jones Jr at 168.

[RAV3N]

Well, not any boxer can do what he did by taking PED's, can they?

Im not saying they could but by no means is it a excuse.

[IMDAZED]

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Agreed. His dominance over common opponents Harmon, Hall and Griffin reaffirm that statement.

I wouldn't say he dominated any of those guys, with the exception of Griffin.

[bose]

roys weakness, is the gulls he has now