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  • Originally posted by Pastrano View Post
    Oscar beat Quartey and Trinidad (at least unofficially), that alone is enough to put him among the greatest welters of his era. THE greatest.
    Quartey was coming off a very long layoff and never won a big fight again. Against Trinidad he ran like a dog to avoid being KO'd so he shouldn't get too much credit for that. Nobody DLH fought belongs on an all time top 10 welterweight list. But since you specified his era, sure, Oscar was among the best welters of the 1990's.

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    • Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
      Quartey was coming off a very long layoff and never won a big fight again. Against Trinidad he ran like a dog to avoid being KO'd so he shouldn't get too much credit for that. Nobody DLH fought belongs on an all time top 10 welterweight list. But since you specified his era, sure, Oscar was among the best welters of the 1990's.
      Well said. I think a Quartey fight, perhaps a few months earlier as originally scheduled, could've made it a decisive victory for Bazooka. The trigger was slower than it should've been and the ring rust was the reason why.

      Ditto on the Tito bout. The controversial decision was, in my eyes, justice. You can talk to me death about how Oscar should've won on points, but I'm not hearing it. It was by no means a blowout. In fact, it was a very close fight that could've gone either way, as evidenced by everyone's card which had it a one or two point swing in either direction. Oscar didn't deserve to win that fight, not with his actions in the ring.

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      • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
        Well said. I think a Quartey fight, perhaps a few months earlier as originally scheduled, could've made it a decisive victory for Bazooka. The trigger was slower than it should've been and the ring rust was the reason why.

        Ditto on the Tito bout. The controversial decision was, in my eyes, justice. You can talk to me death about how Oscar should've won on points, but I'm not hearing it. It was by no means a blowout. In fact, it was a very close fight that could've gone either way, as evidenced by everyone's card which had it a one or two point swing in either direction. Oscar didn't deserve to win that fight, not with his actions in the ring.
        I felt Oscar won. But as you do, I saw it as justice. IMO it justified his gift over Whitaker and deservedly so as literally he ran for his life.
        Last edited by IronDanHamza; 03-27-2011, 12:20 PM.

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        • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
          I felt Oscar won. But as you do, I saw it as justice. IMO it justified his gift over Whitaker and deservedly do as literally he ran for his life.
          Will you NUMBNUTS stop referring to the victory over Whitaker as a GIFT!

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          • Originally posted by Pastrano View Post
            Will you NUMBNUTS stop referring to the victory over Whitaker as a GIFT!
            What did you score the fight?

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            • Originally posted by Pastrano View Post
              Will you NUMBNUTS stop referring to the victory over Whitaker as a GIFT!
              Uh, why? Pernell made Oscar look ****** and those scorecards showed that only one guy was going to win it. It was a close, competitive fight, but those scorecards made it a gift.

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              • Originally posted by BigStereotype View Post
                Uh, why? Pernell made Oscar look ****** and those scorecards showed that only one guy was going to win it. It was a close, competitive fight, but those scorecards made it a gift.
                I'm not sure he knows what a 'gift' is...

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                • Originally posted by RubenSonny View Post
                  I'm not sure he knows what a 'gift' is...
                  I'm not sure he knows very much about anything. Or am I a racist, too?

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                  • Originally posted by Pastrano View Post
                    Will you NUMBNUTS stop referring to the victory over Whitaker as a GIFT!
                    Are you dis*****g it wasn't a fight that could have gone either way? Like BigStereotype just greatly put it, the gift was the fact the scorecards showed Whitaker couldn't win the fight that night.

                    I felt Whitaker won, that's my opinion, one that is clearly one that's open for debate.

                    Then again it's hard to take your comments seriously considering you think Oscar should be ranked higher at WW than Ray Leonard. Among some other strange comments.

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                    • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                      Are you dis*****g it wasn't a fight that could have gone either way? Like BigStereotype just greatly put it, the gift was the fact the scorecards showed Whitaker couldn't win the fight that night.

                      I felt Whitaker won, that's my opinion, one that is clearly one that's open for debate.

                      Then again it's hard to take your comments seriously considering you think Oscar should be ranked higher at WW than Ray Leonard. Among some other strange comments.
                      When there were judges who wouldn't give Pea the 11th, you knew it just wasn't his night before the sun went down.

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