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[NChristo]

They forget how Oscar totally annihilated very hyped and promising fighters like Rafael Ruelas, Jesse James Leija, beat John John Molina, Genaro Hernandez and Miguel Angel Gonzalez.

None of these 'promising fighters' fought Oscar at Welter though, what have they got to do with ranking him there ?.

[RubenSonny]

Thank you, finally somebody else speaks some reason here. People hug Tito way too much while they hate on Oscar because he was so popular and got all the chicks, still does. Such people are really losers. They forget how Oscar PLAYED with Tito for 9 rounds, something nobody ever did, not even Hopkins who is a bigger and stronger man. They forget how Oscar totally annihilated very hyped and promising fighters like Rafael Ruelas, Jesse James Leija, beat John John Molina, Genaro Hernandez and Miguel Angel Gonzalez.

Only one of those fights took place at (junior) welter, so I don't see how they are relevant, Oscars got some good wins no doubt, and he looked spectacular at lightweight, nobodies denying that but thats not whats being debated.

[IronDanHamza]

Thank you, finally somebody else speaks some reason here. People hug Tito way too much while they hate on Oscar because he was so popular and got all the chicks, still does. Such people are really losers. They forget how Oscar PLAYED with Tito for 9 rounds, something nobody ever did, not even Hopkins who is a bigger and stronger man. They forget how Oscar totally annihilated very hyped and promising fighters like Rafael Ruelas, Jesse James Leija, beat John John Molina, Genaro Hernandez and Miguel Angel Gonzalez.

But were talking about Welterweight, no?

That's why no one has mentioned those names.

[IronDanHamza]

Good lord.

I leave a post and before I have time to post it it's alreadu neem addresse by multiple people.

[Pastrano]

I was talking about him as A FIGHTER overall, not just at 147. But he was one of THE best ww's of the 90's, one of the top 5, with Whitaker, McGirt, Quartey and Trinidad. People overrate Whitaker as a ww imo, he was MUCH better as a lw. He got two lucky wins over Rivera, who Oscar totally outclassed and stopped. First McGirt fight was controversial too, I scored that 115-114 for Buddy, the most I could give it for Whitaker is a draw. And lets not mention the Hurtado fight, shall we? The guy got to reign longer than he should have.

[RubenSonny]

I was talking about him as A FIGHTER overall, not just at 147. But he was one of THE best ww's of the 90's, one of the top 5, with Whitaker, McGirt, Quartey and Trinidad. People overrate Whitaker as a ww imo, he was MUCH better as a lw. He got two lucky wins over Rivera, who Oscar totally outclassed and stopped. First McGirt fight was controversial too, I scored that 115-114 for Buddy, the most I could give it for Whitaker is a draw. And lets not mention the Hurtado fight, shall we? The guy got to reign longer than he should have.

You **** on Whitaker yet claim it as a great win for Oscar...smh, was Whitaker such a terrible welterweight that Oscar couldn't decisively beat a a faded version of him (a fight I felt Pea won).

[RubenSonny]

Good lord.

I leave a post and before I have time to post it it's alreadu neem addresse by multiple people.

I hate it when that happens.

[Scott9945]

I was talking about him as A FIGHTER overall, not just at 147. But he was one of THE best ww's of the 90's, one of the top 5, with Whitaker, McGirt, Quartey and Trinidad. People overrate Whitaker as a ww imo, he was MUCH better as a lw. He got two lucky wins over Rivera, who Oscar totally outclassed and stopped. First McGirt fight was controversial too, I scored that 115-114 for Buddy, the most I could give it for Whitaker is a draw. And lets not mention the Hurtado fight, shall we? The guy got to reign longer than he should have.

So basically what you are saying is that Oscar barely beat a washed up undersized welterweight champion in Whitaker. You're not wrong, but that hardly adds to the case for Oscar as a top 10 welter.

[Pastrano]

So basically what you are saying is that Oscar barely beat a washed up undersized welterweight champion in Whitaker. You're not wrong, but that hardly adds to the case for Oscar as a top 10 welter.

Oscar beat Quartey and Trinidad (at least unofficially), that alone is enough to put him among the greatest welters of his era. THE greatest.

[RubenSonny]

Oscar beat Quartey and Trinidad (at least unofficially), that alone is enough to put him among the greatest welters of his era. THE greatest.

Well okay thats good fand all but that doesn't put him in the top 10 and its a joke that you have him next to and above Gavilan.