Name Past Fighters Who Defeat Floyd Mayweather Jr?.

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  • BigStereotype
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    #51
    Here's one that might surprise people: Pre-Mosley Margarito. I think he could beat Floyd just because he wouldn't be discouraged by missing 80% of his shots and he would throw enough to do damage anyway. I don't know if Floyd has anything in his arsenal to keep Antonio off of him. He could get run out of the ring by the relentless pressure. Margarito would eat a lot of punches but that's not exactly a new thing for him. Anybody?

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    • Miburo
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      #52
      Originally posted by Wild Blue Yonda
      Not sure if he's yet been mentioned, but Kid Gavilan, I feel, would've been absolute hell on Mayweather at Welter.
      147 is not under consideration here.

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        #53
        Originally posted by BigStereotype
        Here's one that might surprise people: Pre-Mosley Margarito. I think he could beat Floyd just because he wouldn't be discouraged by missing 80% of his shots and he would throw enough to do damage anyway. I don't know if Floyd has anything in his arsenal to keep Antonio off of him. He could get run out of the ring by the relentless pressure. Margarito would eat a lot of punches but that's not exactly a new thing for him. Anybody?
        You can't win a fight missing 80 percent of your shots. And that's exactly what would happen because Margarito is/was too slow and one dimensional to win that type of fight. And Margarito is not a one punch KO type of fighter.

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          #54
          Originally posted by joseph5620
          You can't win a fight missing 80 percent of your shots. And that's exactly what would happen because Margarito is/was too slow and one dimensional to win that type of fight. And Margarito is not a one punch KO type of fighter.
          I know it sounds weird, but I really think that Margarito could get an attrition KO while being down on all the cards in the 10th+ round.

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            #55
            Originally posted by BigStereotype
            I know it sounds weird, but I really think that Margarito could get an attrition KO while being down on all the cards in the 10th+ round.
            I remember saying that marg would give mayweather hell after his win over cotto,his insane workrate would give him a chance against mayweather no matter how one-dimensional he is

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              #56
              Originally posted by joseph5620
              You can't win a fight missing 80 percent of your shots. And that's exactly what would happen because Margarito is/was too slow and one dimensional to win that type of fight. And Margarito is not a one punch KO type of fighter.
              yes you can.
              just....very unlikely.

              Mayweather did avoid a Marg fight, for whatever reason.

              the closest thing to a volume puncher Mayweather fought was Jesus Chavez maybe....and Marg and Chavez were not very similiar.

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                #57
                Originally posted by The_Demon
                I remember saying that marg would give mayweather hell after his win over cotto,his insane workrate would give him a chance against mayweather no matter how one-dimensional he is
                Precisely. I came to this conclusion after watching the Cotto fight (of course). Just something about his relentlessness and savagery really grabbed my attention and I thought about the Mayweather matchup...I like his chances.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by BigStereotype
                  Precisely. I came to this conclusion after watching the Cotto fight (of course). Just something about his relentlessness and savagery really grabbed my attention and I thought about the Mayweather matchup...I like his chances.
                  Nobody above 140 has really put it on floyd in the way marg would have.Mayweather is pretty conservative at welterweight and of course he could land his shots and his combos when he let his hands go,but would he do it enough too make it look like he wasnt being overwhelmed,thats the question.You have too punch with a guy like marg too discourage him and im not too sure pretty boy would be willing too do that

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by blackirish137
                    yes you can.
                    just....very unlikely.

                    Mayweather did avoid a Marg fight, for whatever reason.

                    the closest thing to a volume puncher Mayweather fought was Jesus Chavez maybe....and Marg and Chavez were not very similiar.
                    He left Bob Arum and he was suing him. I don't know anybody who would do business with the guy they are leaving and suing. That seems to be ignored when discussing Mayweather-Margarito but that's another story. You would be hard pressed to find anybody missing 80 percent of their punches against Mayweather and still beat him. And Margarito is nota one punch KO puncher. He wears fighters down with punishment. So if he misses 80 percent of his punches it's very unlikely that he KO's Mayweather.




                    You can also say that Margarito never fought any style like Mayweather's. That works both ways. Volume punchers tend to throw far less punches when they are missing or getting countered. Example: Check the punch stats for Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by joseph5620
                      He left Bob Arum and he was suing him. I don't know anybody who would do business with the guy they are leaving and suing. That seems to be ignored when discussing Mayweather-Margarito but that's another story. You would be hard pressed to find anybody missing 80 percent of their punches against Mayweather and still beat him. And Margarito is nota one punch KO puncher. He wears fighters down with punishment. So if he misses 80 percent of his punches it's very unlikely that he KO's Mayweather.




                      You can also say that Margarito never fought any style like Mayweather's. That works both ways. Volume punchers tend to throw far less punches when they are missing or getting countered. Example: Check the punch stats for Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez.
                      I said nothing about Margarito knocking Floyd out, if anything he would have won by decision. Workrate and stamina would be the key to a Marg victory(if he were to win), not his power. I think Floyd would fight extremely defensively against Margarito and not fire much, even though I agree that volume punchers dont throw as much when theyre being countered. Floyds offense shuts down a lot more when hes being hit to the body and constantly trying to avoid punches.

                      I can see Floyd sweeping the early rounds, but then Margaritos engine starts to rev and Floyd gets more tired out by his constant movement+the larger and stronger Margarito roughing him up when Mayweather clinched(which he would).

                      again though, its hard to imagine this fight playing out when Floyd never fought anyone like prime Marg, and Marg never fought anyone like prime Floyd...but IF Margarito were to win, thats how I would invision it playing out.

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