Did Buster Douglas Really Beat Mike Tyson??

[lane99]

I remembered, I even scored the 8th round only a 10-9 for Tyson, because Buster had dominated it, and he seemed fully in control laying on the floor. That a knockdown should automatically mean 10-8 I've never agreed with.

The only ugly history about this fight is, that if it had gone the distance, two judges might have deprived Buster of a much deserved points verdict.

Yes, the judges' scores were a travesty. Luckily Buster took it out of their hands.

But only giving Tyson 10-9 is the 8th is almost as bad. It was a picture perfect uppercut, that laid his man out. I agree that under exceptional and rare circumstances you can call a round 10-9 with a knockdown. Especially if it's somehow a chintzy or fluke knockdown. That wasn't the case here, though. That knockdown wipes out everything that came before it that round.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Funny Tyson never got a rematch, considering he fought a few fights after that before going to prison. I heard there were promo posters for a Tyson/Holyfield fight before he was arrested though.

To answer the question, yes, James "Buster" Douglas really did beat Mike Tyson. His career took off so fast after that that he not only had his own video game for Sega Genesis, but he was also a guest referee that year at Summerslam for WWF. I think he knocked out the Macho King, if I remember correctly haha. Speaking of which, didn't Primo Carnera get involved in wrestling after his boxing career?

No, it wasn't summerslam, it was Saturday night main event on nbc, right after buster beat Tyson,, I think it was less than a month after...

Holyfield/Tyson was set for 89, 90, and nov 91 but mike pulled out with rib injury and then went to jail... IMO don king was never going to put mike in with a prime evander... King waited til Holyfield was old and ok'd by bowe and looked horrible vs cyzz

[Mintcar923]

No, it wasn't summerslam, it was Saturday night main event on nbc, right after buster beat Tyson,, I think it was less than a month after...

Holyfield/Tyson was set for 89, 90, and nov 91 but mike pulled out with rib injury and then went to jail... IMO don king was never going to put mike in with a prime evander... King waited til Holyfield was old and ok'd by bowe and looked horrible vs cyzz

I hope you're not suggesting King was so afraid Mike would lose to Holy in '91 he deliberately post-poned the fight and rigged the date-**** trial to duck him.. Reason being, his chances against him would be better 4 years later.. I really hope you're not serious!

[SBleeder]

Yes, the judges' scores were a travesty. Luckily Buster took it out of their hands.

But only giving Tyson 10-9 is the 8th is almost as bad. It was a picture perfect uppercut, that laid his man out. I agree that under exceptional and rare circumstances you can call a round 10-9 with a knockdown. Especially if it's somehow a chintzy or fluke knockdown. That wasn't the case here, though. That knockdown wipes out everything that came before it that round.

Just watched the fight for the first time in over fifteen years.

My card:

Tyson Round Douglas
9. 1. 10
9. 2. 10
9. 3. 10
9. 4. 10
9. 5. 10
10. 6. 10
9. 7. 10
10. 8. 8
9. 9. 10

83. Total. 88


How anyone could have had Tyson up is beyond me.

[Anthony342]

Nothing on the Primo Carnera thing? Anyway, much like Ali/Foreman, it was ruled a KO, was a big upset, but some say was actually a TKO. I'd say Tyson/Douglas was more a TKO then Ali/Foreman though.

So yeah, Douglas definitely beat Tyson's butt that night.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I hope you're not suggesting King was so afraid Mike would lose to Holy in '91 he deliberately post-poned the fight and rigged the date-**** trial to duck him.. Reason being, his chances against him would be better 4 years later.. I really hope you're not serious!

King was afraid to put mike in with evander in 89, 90, 91,,,

No i dont think he rigged the **** trial,,, why would you think i would think that,,,,

It was well known that evander had gotten the best of mike in sparring at the olympic trials, and even punked him out over a game of pool,, read some of their books and that story comes up alot,,,

King knew that, and knew evander would not be intimitaded by mike,,, he might get rocked early but holyfield would not stop and would break mike,,

88 they didnt want none, because holy was just becoming a heavy and to fight a cruiser champ didnt make sense

89 they didnt want none and evander proved himself at heavy vs dokes, etc

90 the fight i believe was a mandatory by that time, yet mike lost to douglas, and then evander beat buster..

91 instead of challenging holyfield and trying to reclaim his belt, tyson and king fought tillman, stewart, ruddock twice,,, why would they just fight evander, it was much bigger money and a chance to regain the belts but they past on it 3 times and took 3 other fights, yet holyfield took non mandatory fights like cooper and foreman,,
then in november it was suppose to happen but tyson pulled out,, similar to haye and fury,,, tyson's team didnt want none,,,, biggest heavyweight fight and had over 3 years to make it,, yet never happened,,, but then conviently tried to fight holyfield after he retired and cameback and got stopped by bowe and then looked like crap vs bobby cyzz,,, then tyson was able to fight him, even though there was alot more deserving candidates at the time than old ass evander

Tyson only fought big names if they were coming out of retirement, holmes, spinks, holyfield

[Mintcar923]

King was afraid to put mike in with evander in 89, 90, 91,,,

No i dont think he rigged the **** trial,,, why would you think i would think that,,,,

It was well known that evander had gotten the best of mike in sparring at the olympic trials, and even punked him out over a game of pool,, read some of their books and that story comes up alot,,,

King knew that, and knew evander would not be intimitaded by mike,,, he might get rocked early but holyfield would not stop and would break mike,,

88 they didnt want none, because holy was just becoming a heavy and to fight a cruiser champ didnt make sense

89 they didnt want none and evander proved himself at heavy vs dokes, etc

90 the fight i believe was a mandatory by that time, yet mike lost to douglas, and then evander beat buster..

91 instead of challenging holyfield and trying to reclaim his belt, tyson and king fought tillman, stewart, ruddock twice,,, why would they just fight evander, it was much bigger money and a chance to regain the belts but they past on it 3 times and took 3 other fights, yet holyfield took non mandatory fights like cooper and foreman,,
then in november it was suppose to happen but tyson pulled out,, similar to haye and fury,,, tyson's team didnt want none,,,, biggest heavyweight fight and had over 3 years to make it,, yet never happened,,, but then conviently tried to fight holyfield after he retired and cameback and got stopped by bowe and then looked like crap vs bobby cyzz,,, then tyson was able to fight him, even though there was alot more deserving candidates at the time than old ass evander

Tyson only fought big names if they were coming out of retirement, holmes, spinks, holyfield

I don't see how Mike was ducking Evander.. Holy wasn't really taken serious as a challenger to him until after Dokes.. And, that's when Mike challenged him immediately after the Carl Williams fight.. Both took tune-ups.. Mike took Douglas & Evander took Stewart if my memory serves me correctly.. But, the fight was originally made for June of 1990 which fell through cause of the upset.. Tyson had also said that he wanted to fight Holy back in early '91 but he elected to fight Foreman instead.. And, if you recall back in October of 90 after the Douglas-Holy fight Dan Duva himself said Tyson will get his chance so long as he waits in line like everyone else. As far as post-prison, Evander had the advantage being he was only off for a year as opposed to Mike's four.. He was also more well-oiled after going all those rounds with Mercer & Bowe.. It was just foolish for DK to put Mike in there with him with just a total of 7 rounds under his belt in 5 years... Especially, if there were no belts to gain...

[Anthony342]

So is that why Don King got Tyson a tax lawyer for his **** trial, to make sure he'd go to prison to avoid fighting Evander? Kind of far fetched, but little about King surprises my anymore.

[SBleeder]

So is that why Don King got Tyson a tax lawyer for his **** trial, to make sure he'd go to prison to avoid fighting Evander? Kind of far fetched, but little about King surprises my anymore.

Sigh.

Vincent Fuller was one of the best criminal defense attorneys in the country. He got John Hinckley a NGRI verdict, scored a not guilty verdict for Jimmy Hoffa, and got Don King off on tax evasion (which is a criminal offense; Tysontards saw the word "tax" and started the myth that he was a tax attorney.). Fuller was one of the most feared criminal lawyers of all time.

His defense of Tyson was praised by prosecutors as nothing short of brilliant.

[Scott9945]

Sigh.

Vincent Fuller was one of the best criminal defense attorneys in the country. He got John Hinckley a NGRI verdict, scored a not guilty verdict for Jimmy Hoffa, and got Don King off on tax evasion (which is a criminal offense; Tysontards saw the word "tax" and started the myth that he was a tax attorney.). Fuller was one of the most feared criminal lawyers of all time.

His defense of Tyson was praised by prosecutors as nothing short of brilliant.

I don't consider that source as very convincing.