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Ali was heavyweight champ when he lost to Spinks, does anyone think he wasn't shot?
Fighters fight differently and accordance to distance. Nit saying Willard didn't have fine stamina, but do you really think he was setting and continuing some sort of fast paced fight? If Lewis chose to fight at that pace during his career he would have been boo'd and never made a dime. The social climate and rules of the day have to be taken into consideration if you're going to use this argument.
He beat Ruiz in his VERY next fight. The same Ruiz who you said Lewis was ducking because he had been beaten up in sparring. You can't have it both ways Sonny.
The Holy fight was a tough, tough fight for both. Stop making it sound like a one sided drubbing. And we both know Mercer ran hot and cold. He stepped it up for his bigger fights and was lazy for the ones not so big.
And you can say the same for 99% of the fighters from his era so stop picking and choosing your spots.
Who exactly is turning this into a debate about Lewis? Are these not your words, from THIS thread?
"Willard was as good as Lewis make no mistake about that"
"Beating Jack Johnson out does anything Lewis achieved..."
"Fighting 26rds in 100* heat out does anything Lewis did.."
"Beating Floyd Johnson as good as any victory of Lewis..."
"Willard able to take a tremendous amount of punishment and fight back unlike Lewis who was poleaxed twice by mediocre journeymen with neither journeyman ever able to KO an opponent in a similar fashion before or after their victory over Lewis..."
Originally posted by JAB5239
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Willard fought for 26rds in 100* heat.. Lewis was knackered by the 9th round against a "Shot" Tony Tucker.. Lewis was always gassed-out in most of his fights by the mid-rounds.
Fighters fight differently and accordance to distance. Nit saying Willard didn't have fine stamina, but do you really think he was setting and continuing some sort of fast paced fight? If Lewis chose to fight at that pace during his career he would have been boo'd and never made a dime. The social climate and rules of the day have to be taken into consideration if you're going to use this argument.
Holyfield was well past it when Lewis fought him to a draw and a decision win yet the decision win was very controversial... Floyd Johnson who Willard beat was in his prime.
He beat Ruiz in his VERY next fight. The same Ruiz who you said Lewis was ducking because he had been beaten up in sparring. You can't have it both ways Sonny.
Ray Mercer was beaten by Old Larry Holmes, Jesse Ferguson & coming into the Lewis fight off the back of a hammering from Holyfield.. so give us a break.
The Holy fight was a tough, tough fight for both. Stop making it sound like a one sided drubbing. And we both know Mercer ran hot and cold. He stepped it up for his bigger fights and was lazy for the ones not so big.
i can go along with your opinion of the "Lax medical opinion of the day" back in the early part of the century and the same applies today in that Lennox Lewis has NEVER been tested for anabolic steroid abuse yet there is an opinion by some that Lewis was a steroid abuser.
And you can say the same for 99% of the fighters from his era so stop picking and choosing your spots.
Let us not once again turn this subject into a Lennox Lewis argument by his supporters... it is now getting to the stage on this forum where if any member posts an opinion that they feel some past ATG beats Lewis then the thread is immediately turned upside-down and the Lewis fanboys come out to defend their hero and no matter how much evidence is placed before them that evidence is rubbished to the point of hilarity... Yet they never ever produce evidence to contradict the argument, it's as if all boxing followers have to toe-the-line when it comes to Lewis because his greatness is carved-in-stone and all other Heavyweight Champions careers and resumes can be called, ridiculed & rubbished without fear of response.
Who exactly is turning this into a debate about Lewis? Are these not your words, from THIS thread?
"Willard was as good as Lewis make no mistake about that"
"Beating Jack Johnson out does anything Lewis achieved..."
"Fighting 26rds in 100* heat out does anything Lewis did.."
"Beating Floyd Johnson as good as any victory of Lewis..."
"Willard able to take a tremendous amount of punishment and fight back unlike Lewis who was poleaxed twice by mediocre journeymen with neither journeyman ever able to KO an opponent in a similar fashion before or after their victory over Lewis..."
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