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  • #31
    Originally posted by Nick Name View Post
    Yeah, Sam Peter's kinda driven, just look at the video I posted. Don King probably had told him to talk some trash Ali-style to raise extra-attention, and he popped out with that strange sentence eheheh... Hunnésh! He's not the only Nigerian fighter to be driven tho, remember Ike Ibeabuchi? If not, read his story. Kinda frightening
    Yeah, I remember Ike. He reminded me of Sonny Liston. He really wenrt of the rails after his fight with Tua, he liked to beat up hookers or crap like that
    Originally posted by Nick Name View Post
    It's hard to find superstar African boxers for obvious reasons: the dramatic poorness of the structures and the political shakiness of his Nations.
    Good point

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
      [FONT=Arial]Ike had a chance to be the best, but inactivity shortened his peak. He was off way too long before the De La Hoya fight. Quartey at his peak really was a beast with that thumping jab.[/FONT]

      Yes he was. And the only time Delahoya showed any interest in fighting Quartey was after the inactivity.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by rubensonnny View Post
        Just watched Joseph Agbeko decision Yohnny Perez and thought that he may become great if he dominates the Bantamweight division. It got me thinking of who was the greatest African fighter of all time, I guess its a toss up between Nelson and Tiger, I don't really know enough about his career even though I'm Nigerian. Who do you think is the greatest African fighter of all time and name some other notable African fighters.
        Azumah Nelson and **** Tiger.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
          Azumah Nelson and **** Tiger.
          Surprise surprise.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Wild Blue Yonda View Post
            There's no reasonable way, however, Quartey has a place in this discussion. The best African fighter, singularly, of all-time? Quartey has no business here.
            Not saying he does at all. As Scott said, his best was just too shortened from before the Oscar fight to after it and then getting screwed against Forrest etc. He didn't losses well.

            Nonetheless, for potential, I genuinely think he was one of the very best African fighters ever. He just wasn't able to capitalise on it. Clottey based his game off Ike who was his favourite fighter, which is the reason he fights so similarly. Good defense, great combinations, hard stiff jab and counter shots, beautiful left hand etc. Ike had everything down better than Clottey though. Hit a little harder, was a bit faster and his jab of course.

            I love Ike. One of my favourite fighters to watch ever.

            But yeah, I wasn't saying he should be considered as the best or close to it. When people are throwing names out like Ibeabuchi, Clottey, Sam ****ing Peter.....Ike blows these guys out of the water.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by BennyST View Post
              Not saying he does at all. As Scott said, his best was just too shortened from before the Oscar fight to after it and then getting screwed against Forrest etc. He didn't losses well.

              Nonetheless, for potential, I genuinely think he was one of the very best African fighters ever. He just wasn't able to capitalise on it. Clottey based his game off Ike who was his favourite fighter, which is the reason he fights so similarly. Good defense, great combinations, hard stiff jab and counter shots, beautiful left hand etc. Ike had everything down better than Clottey though. Hit a little harder, was a bit faster and his jab of course.

              I love Ike. One of my favourite fighters to watch ever.

              But yeah, I wasn't saying he should be considered as the best or close to it. When people are throwing names out like Ibeabuchi, Clottey, Sam ****ing Peter.....Ike blows these guys out of the water.

              The Quartey who stopped Vince Phillips was a hell of a fighter. One thing that perplexed me about Quartey is that when he was the welterweight champion he had a solid right to go with his terrific left. But starting with the DLH fight and forever after, it looked slow and weak. Anyone else ever notice this?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
                The Quartey who stopped Vince Phillips was a hell of a fighter. One thing that perplexed me about Quartey is that when he was the welterweight champion he had a solid right to go with his terrific left. But starting with the DLH fight and forever after, it looked slow and weak. Anyone else ever notice this?
                Yes, true that. By the time he moved to 154 it had become non-existant in comparison to his earlier brutal right hand. He really used to throw it with his body and that counter right hand of his (like James Toney's best punch) was really crisp, sharp and short but it became more and more of an arm punch without him turning his hips or shoulders into it.

                I think his stoppage of Phillips just goes to show how good he was at that time. Phillips gets horribly slagged on by many people but he was a bloody good fighter. I think most think of him as nothing more than a brawling power puncher, but he was anything but that and was thought of as a great fighter in his day. He was a great prospect that had big things expected of him though most forget that now of course. As good as he became, it was not what his potential could have made him.

                Ike laying waste to him in only three rounds was incredible and at the time it stunned quite a lot of people.

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                • #38
                  Not the greatest ,but sure was fun to watch Baby Jake Matala.

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                  • #39
                    Check out the next lightweight sensation

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                    • #40
                      Definitely **** Tiger IMO.

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