Ring Magazine ''Alexis Arguello Would KO Floyd Mayweather''

[The Noose]

He would have major trouble hitting. Let alone stopping him.

[The Noose]

did you miss mayweather/castillo 2 were floyd pretty much just moved and potshotted?the same thing you said he doesnt do.floyd is the best at making adjustments.duran couldnt deal with leonards speed in the rematch and was thouroughly embarrased.if floyd decided to move,the outcome would be the same

Leonard did use movement and speed to beat duran in their rematch, but Leonard also threw huge power punches as Duran was coming in, before slipping away.

Floyd doesnt do that. And doesnt have the power to hurt Duran. Floyd slips away brilliantly, but he doesnt fight the way Leonard did that night. He backs up and can be trapped on the ropes. Duran was great when he had a fight on the ropes, plus he is bigger, faster and more dangerous than Castillo.
The Castillo rematch was close up until the last few rounds. I think Duran at his best would be trouble for Floyd.

[BennyST]

Which wasn't smart against Duran.

But it was how he normally fought. They thought the way he fought would win. They didn't realise it wouldn't be enough until during the fight. Dundee wanted Leonard to back him up and **** him to the body and they thought he would be big enough, quick enough, powerful enough to win.

It didn't work.

Anyway, the point is that Mayweather has not moved as much as Leonard has in his entire career apart form maybe at 147. 135 and below he stood in fought. Yes, I have seen the Castillo rematch. He doesn't move that much. Certainly not as much as Leonard did. Leonard leads a lot more than Mayweather so he doesn't need to wait on them to do something. Mayweather gets his opportunities from the other guy trying to hit him, which is why he doesn't move as much as Leonard. As much as Leonard is a classic boxer, he is just as much of a straight up puncher trying to take you out.

One other big thing here. Duran and Mayweather are the same size. Leonard started at 147 and was a very big welter. The trouble he had with Leonard is as much to do with him being a big, absurdly tough welter. At LW, Duran could hurt and stay on him much easier. He was much faster as a LW etc etc.

You guys are thinking of the Duran that came in against Leonard II. It's quite a different situation against the one that was at his best at LW.

[RubenSonny]

But it was how he normally fought. They thought the way he fought would win. They didn't realise it wouldn't be enough until during the fight. Dundee wanted Leonard to back him up and **** him to the body and they thought he would be big enough, quick enough, powerful enough to win.

It didn't work.

Anyway, the point is that Mayweather has not moved as much as Leonard has in his entire career apart form maybe at 147. 135 and below he stood in fought. Yes, I have seen the Castillo rematch. He doesn't move that much. Certainly not as much as Leonard did. Leonard leads a lot more than Mayweather so he doesn't need to wait on them to do something. Mayweather gets his opportunities from the other guy trying to hit him, which is why he doesn't move as much as Leonard. As much as Leonard is a classic boxer, he is just as much of a straight up puncher trying to take you out.

One other big thing here. Duran and Mayweather are the same size. Leonard started at 147 and was a very big welter. The trouble he had with Leonard is as much to do with him being a big, absurdly tough welter. At LW, Duran could hurt and stay on him much easier. He was much faster as a LW etc etc.

You guys are thinking of the Duran that came in against Leonard II. It's quite a different situation against the one that was at his best at LW.

I didnt once suggest Mayweather would beat Duran, I have always said that at 135 I would favor Duran hugely.

[r.burgundy]

Leonard did use movement and speed to beat duran in their rematch, but Leonard also threw huge power punches as Duran was coming in, before slipping away.

Floyd doesnt do that. And doesnt have the power to hurt Duran. Floyd slips away brilliantly, but he doesnt fight the way Leonard did that night. He backs up and can be trapped on the ropes. Duran was great when he had a fight on the ropes, plus he is bigger, faster and more dangerous than Castillo.
The Castillo rematch was close up until the last few rounds. I think Duran at his best would be trouble for Floyd.

leonard didnt have the power to hurt duran either and he won easily.floyd is harder to hit than leonard at any weight.we can probly count on both hands the times we've seen floyd hit cleanly.thats not the case with leonard

duran would definitely be trouble but i still see a wide u.d for floyd

[jrosales13]

If he could land that explosive right hand. Then yes probably.

However, I think Floyd style/skill set is all wrong for Arguello. That I think Floyd would have beat him at 130.

[StarshipTrooper]

If he could land that explosive right hand. Then yes probably.

However, I think Floyd style/skill set is all wrong for Arguello. That I think Floyd would have beat him at 130.

Without a reach advantage Floyd would have to put himself into Arguello's power zone to land his pot-shots. Once he gets a taste of Alexis' power I can easily see this fight turning into a carbon copy of Rosario-Camacho.

Poet

[jrosales13]

Without a reach advantage Floyd would have to put himself into Arguello's power zone to land his pot-shots. Once he gets a taste of Alexis' power I can easily see this fight turning into a carbon copy of Rosario-Camacho.

Poet

The thing is at 130 Floyd really didn't pot shot. And, was a pretty big 130 not as tall and lanky as Arguello but pretty pig and pretty solid puncher at that weight. And, also put punches together not just a pot shotter he became later in his career.

[joseph5620]

Without a reach advantage Floyd would have to put himself into Arguello's power zone to land his pot-shots. Once he gets a taste of Alexis' power I can easily see this fight turning into a carbon copy of Rosario-Camacho.

Poet

They have the same reach and the speed is not even close. Which means it's far more likely that Mayweather's punches would hit the target before Arguello's would. Arguello had a very robotic, methodical style. Once it was disrupted he had problems which is why a fighter like Vilomar Fernandez was able to outbox him. And that is a something that was exposed while Arguello was in his prime. No matter how you want to look at it, this is a bad match up for Arguello. And Mayweather and Camacho are totally different. Camacho moved much more than Mayweather and had none of the same technical, defensive skills.

[StarshipTrooper]

And Mayweather and Camacho are totally different. Camacho moved much more than Mayweather and had none of the same technical, defensive skills.

BS. Mayweather is a Camacho clone if I ever saw one: Take a pot-shot and run like ****. Even borrows Camacho's bad Village People wardrobe.

You talk like Floyd is unhittable: He's not. Nor is he "the most skilled fighter ever" as his brainwashed KoolAid drinkers claim. I would take Whitaker's technical and defensive skills over Floyd's any day.

Poet