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Larry Holmes and Wladimir Klitschko. Titlereign comparison.

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  • #51
    Originally posted by Ivich View Post
    Holmes fought the entire Norton fight with a torn left biceps muscle.
    Torn tissue in the left bicep. I'm not a doctor but it sounds like a major difference to me.

    Here's the story:

    An hour later they were at the Desert Springs Hospital, where the fighter was examined by Dr. Anthony Serfustini and Keith Kleven, a physical therapist, who found torn tissue in the biceps.

    "How bad is it?" Giachetti asked.

    The answer: bad enough to postpone the fight.

    "For how long?"

    "Four months."

    Holmes shook his head. "No way," he said. "What can you do for me now?"

    Kleven suggested an hour's ultrasonic hot-water treatment twice a day. He also advised Giachetti to call in Dr. James Garrick, a Phoenix specialist who works with professional football players. When Giachetti called, Garrick said he would fly to Las Vegas on Wednesday.

    "O.K., we'll hold a decision until Dr. Garrick checks him out," Giachetti said. "Meanwhile, start the treatments."

    That night Giachetti called his wife Nancy in Cleveland and told her the fight was off. "Larry says he can fight Norton with one arm," he said, "but if this guy from Phoenix says no, it's no."

    "You better have a drink," Nancy said.

    "Hell, I'm calling you from a bar."

    On Wednesday, Garrick examined Holmes, confirmed the injury and said Kleven's treatment was perfect.

    "Can he fight?" Giachetti asked.

    "If he wants to," Garrick said. "When the fight starts, his arm should be 100%. It's later the trouble will come. In the late rounds he will lose 6% to 8% effectiveness. And if he gets hit on the tear he could lose as much as 40%."
    https://vault.si.com/vault/1978/06/1...rom-ken-norton

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Ivich View Post

      Why not who did Lewis or Holyfield duck? They were all ranked when Wlad was.Lewis would have decapitated Wlad imo
      As I remember there was several offers for Tyson and Holyfield and Lewis, but they didn't want none.

      I'm not surprised you think Lewis would decapitate Wlad, but I'll let you know when I'd like your view on that fantasy fight.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
        Let's not pretend that Tyson, Holyfield, Tua, Lewis would have taken a fight with Wlad.
        Ivich thinks that way. Wlad ducked no one. And he won't compare others the same way! He is one big double standard. Good luck with him.

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        • #54
          I did not realize champions could fight below the top ten. I thought when that happened those fighters got an overnight rating to make it "legitimate" if you get me.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post

            Torn tissue in the left bicep. I'm not a doctor but it sounds like a major difference to me.

            Here's the story:



            https://vault.si.com/vault/1978/06/1...rom-ken-norton
            I have Holmes account of things.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post

              As I remember there was several offers for Tyson and Holyfield and Lewis, but they didn't want none.

              I'm not surprised you think Lewis would decapitate Wlad, but I'll let you know when I'd like your view on that fantasy fight.
              I'll let you know when I would like you to provide verified proof Tyson,Holyfield. and Lewis refused to fight Wlad.

              Now Please!
              ps "As you remember ," doesn't cut it!

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Ivich View Post
                I'll let you know when I would like you to provide verified proof Tyson,Holyfield. and Lewis refused to fight Wlad.

                Now Please!
                ps "As you remember ," doesn't cut it!
                I don't know about Tyson, but I k ow Holyfield was chasing both K's. Wlad lost to either Sanders to negate the Lewis fight which was supposed to be next if I remember correctly.
                Ivich Ivich likes this.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                  I don't know about Tyson, but I k ow Holyfield was chasing both K's. Wlad lost to either Sanders to negate the Lewis fight which was supposed to be next if I remember correctly.
                  Indeed. Washed up Holyfield wanted any payday he could get in the tail end of his career in order to pay for his divorces. Klitschko wanted none of it as they had nothing to gain by beating up an old way past it legend.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Ivich View Post
                    I'll let you know when I would like you to provide verified proof Tyson,Holyfield. and Lewis refused to fight Wlad.

                    Now Please!
                    ps "As you remember ," doesn't cut it!
                    Kohl made plenty offers back when the Klitschko was up and coming. Idk if I can be arsed to find proofs to you as it should be of no surprise to sober people that the risk reward ratio was hard to satisfy for anglos point of view.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

                      Ivich thinks that way. Wlad ducked no one. And he won't compare others the same way! He is one big double standard. Good luck with him.
                      I’m not taking sides in you guys everlasting beef.

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