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  • The greatest in the Super and Junior weight classes?

    Just looking for thoughts because I'm not overly sure about these weigth classes.

    Junor Welterweight - Aaron Pryor
    Junior Middleweight - Thomas Hearns
    Super Featherweight - Alexis Arguello
    Super Middleweight - Roy Jones Jr
    Cruiserweight - Evander Holyfield

    Am I correct in this analysis if so who would you replace and why and please add in nay others if possible.
    Thanks.
    "M" (I'm rolling 007 style now!)

  • #2
    arguably julio chavez or antonio cervantes arguably best light welter

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    • #3
      Cruiserweight: Evander Holyfield- I just can't see no other choice.

      Super Middlewight: Joe Calzaghe- Roy was probably as close to unbeatable as you can get in this weiht-class IMO. However, he didn't have the longevity in this weight-class to be call the greatest ever. Calzaghe did and unified the division I rank him the best.

      Junior Middleweight: Mike McCallum- However, I keep switching between him and Hearns.

      Junior Welterweight: Julio Cesar Chavez- However, Cervantez and Locche had a good case to be here.

      Super featherweight: Alexis Arguello- El flaco explosivo was just that explosive.

      Super Bantamweight: Wifredo Gomez- IMO he had a better run than Morales.

      Super Flyweight:Khaosai Galaxy

      Junior Flyweight: Humberto Gonzalez/Michael Carbajal- Can't decide which guy is on top.

      Strawweight: Ricardo Lopez- Hands down no other choice can be made. Somehow like Holyfield case at cruiserweight. It could have a lot to do with the 2 divisions not having a rich history.

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      • #4
        Not Pryor & not Jones!

        What did Aaron Pryor really do in his career, he cheated & beat Arguello moving up to his 4th weighclass at the end of an awesome career, he beat him a 2nd time after he had cheated him & taken his heart & his will to win against Pryor, he beat an aging and well past his prime Cervantes, who not known for great power, put Pryor down, so I say Cervantes wins by decision in his prime over Pryor, oh yeah, he beat, Dujuan Johnson, #4 ranked contender, after Johnson put him on the canvas, & also not known for his power, lets see what else did Pryor do, oh yes, he beat about 30 stiffs on the way to compiling that awesome record.

        Oh & he bypassed the LW division where he started & only had 1 fight, could it have been due to all the solid fighters in that division, oh & he bypassed the #1 JWW contender Saul Mamby, who I also pick to outbox Pryor & win by Decision.
        Chavez & Tsyzu & Loi & Cervantes all 4 over Pryor at JWW, so no definitely not Pryor, & I'm from Cincinnati, I saw all his Pro fights but 1 & 90% of his amateur fights, & enjoyed watching him & loved the fact he was from my City, but seeing him so often, I knew what he could & could not do, so did his people that's why they cheated Arguello, they were scared he would KO Pryor, since he avoided anyone with any decent power at all during his whole career.

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        • #5
          105: Ricardo Lopez
          108: Michael Carbajal
          115: Gilberto Roman
          122: Wilfredo Gomez
          130: Alexis Arguello
          140: Julio Cesar Chavez Sr.
          154: Thomas Hearns
          168: Thomas Hearns again
          200: Evander Holyfield
          Last edited by SBleeder; 06-21-2013, 08:30 AM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Barnburner View Post
            Just looking for thoughts because I'm not overly sure about these weigth classes.

            Junor Welterweight - Aaron Pryor
            Junior Middleweight - Thomas Hearns
            Super Featherweight - Alexis Arguello
            Super Middleweight - Roy Jones Jr
            Cruiserweight - Evander Holyfield

            Am I correct in this analysis if so who would you replace and why and please add in nay others if possible.
            Thanks.
            "M" (I'm rolling 007 style now!)
            Roy Jones is definitely not the greatest super middleweight ever. He had a handful of fights at 168 and James Toney would be his biggest win there. If anything, Roy is one of the greatest 175 pounders ever.
            Is Ray Leonard the greatest middleweight of all time cause he beat Marvin Hagler? No.

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            • #7
              Jr WW - Chavez

              Jr MW - McCallum

              Super Featherweight - Arguello

              Super Middleweight - Froch (At this moment in time, likely to change)

              Crusierweight - Holyfield.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                Jr WW - Chavez

                Jr MW - McCallum

                Super Featherweight - Arguello

                Super Middleweight - Froch (At this moment in time, likely to change)

                Crusierweight - Holyfield.
                Froch is in my current top 5 but why him instead of Andre? Their resumes are pretty similar but being undefeated, and the victor when they fought should tip the scales in SOG's favor IMO

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Nagabilly View Post
                  Froch is in my current top 5 but why him instead of Andre? Their resumes are pretty similar but being undefeated, and the victor when they fought should tip the scales in SOG's favor IMO
                  I just think despite Ward having the win over Froch, Frochs resume at 168 is clearly better than his (At this moment in time)

                  Ward is likely to surpass him though

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
                    105: Ricardo Lopez
                    108: Michael Carbajal
                    115: Gilberto Roman
                    122: Wilfredo Gomez
                    130: Alexis Arguello
                    140: Julio Cesar Chavez Sr.
                    154: Thomas Hearns
                    168: Thomas Hearns again
                    200: Evander Holyfield
                    Hearns over guys like Calzaghe, the obvious leader I guess, Ward, Jones, Toney, Eubanks, Benn etc etc? I dont think so.

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