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  • #11
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
    Jr WW - Chavez

    Jr MW - McCallum

    Super Featherweight - Arguello

    Super Middleweight - Froch (At this moment in time, likely to change)

    Crusierweight - Holyfield.
    Hold on, you think Froch is the greatest Super middleweight of all time?

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Barnburner View Post
      Just looking for thoughts because I'm not overly sure about these weigth classes.

      Junor Welterweight - Aaron Pryor
      Junior Middleweight - Thomas Hearns
      Super Featherweight - Alexis Arguello
      Super Middleweight - Roy Jones Jr
      Cruiserweight - Evander Holyfield

      Am I correct in this analysis if so who would you replace and why and please add in nay others if possible.
      Thanks.
      "M" (I'm rolling 007 style now!)
      Why put Thomas Hearns as number one in the light-middleweight? someone like McCallum is more relevant in that discussion. Thomas Hearns did most of his best work outside that division and to my memory only fought a handful of times, though winning the title from an incredibly underrated Benitez (one of the best WW-LMW of all times).

      Supermiddleweight I'm leaning towards Joe C, but I think both RJJ and James Toney would have beaten him in their prime. But Calzaghe just has the longevity in the division, and only fought as a SMW besides a few money fights. Wasn't he also one of the people in the history of boxing who held the same title for longest? 10 years or so. Pretty impressive whichever way you want to look at it.

      I would put Cervantes over Pryor. Made a ridiculous amount of defenses in probably the best era for light welterweights.

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      • #13
        I'd say Cervantes too but his first fight with Locche makes me reconsider.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by D-MiZe View Post
          I'd say Cervantes too but his first fight with Locche makes me reconsider.
          But he came back from that fight and beat him in the rematch. Also, Locche was an amazing boxer. Also very underrated imo.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
            But he came back from that fight and beat him in the rematch. Also, Locche was an amazing boxer. Also very underrated imo.
            He beat him via cuts in the second, which is a fight I haven't seen. But he made Cervantes look silly at times in their first.

            Locche's definitely one of the best at 140, no matter how you slice it. Just depends on what your criteria is for the best.

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            • #16
              I haven't seen the rematch either. Haven't been able to find footage of it.
              I agree, which is why I say he's very underrated. I hardly ever see his name being mentioned. Most go by the usual suspects like Pryor or Chaves.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
                I haven't seen the rematch either. Haven't been able to find footage of it.
                I agree, which is why I say he's very underrated. I hardly ever see his name being mentioned. Most go by the usual suspects like Pryor or Chaves.
                Are you guys talking about Locche being underrated? I'd say he is unknown amongst casuals, but anyone who knows boxing well knows Locche but he is nowhere near as good as JCC in terms of being the best 140 pounder.

                LWW - JCC
                LMW - M McCullum
                SMW - Joe Calzaghe

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                  Are you guys talking about Locche being underrated? I'd say he is unknown amongst casuals, but anyone who knows boxing well knows Locche but he is nowhere near as good as JCC in terms of being the best 140 pounder.

                  LWW - JCC
                  LMW - M McCullum
                  SMW - Joe Calzaghe
                  I wouldn't put him at the top, but I'd give him a mention in the top 6-7.
                  But his abilities are very underrated, and he could beat anyone on his day imo which was proven in the first fight against Cervantes.

                  I put Cervantes slightly above JCC because his era was really the era for the LWW. JCC also have superb wins in Hector Camacho and Mayweather, but in my opinion was given a boxing lesson against Whitaker and then lost to Randall.

                  But it's tight between these two. Pryor is number three.

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                  • #19
                    No Duilio Loi mentions yet ?.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by NChristo View Post
                      No Duilio Loi mentions yet ?.
                      As a light welterweight?

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