Who Was Stronger: Wlad Klitschko or Muhammad Ali

[musiol]

No need to make fun of my English. I say it is second language. What other languages do you speek? And bert sugar just old man. Also slave to nostalgia like most on this forum. I do not come to insult individuals and I am not an alt as you say. I am simple fan on Wlad Klitschko. He is my favorite fighter and best ever heavyweight. He is knock out master and brilliant man. Why compare Wlad out of ring to Ali? Ali is not a noble man like Wlad. Ali is not a smart man like Wlad. Ali turn his back on his country, on his religion, on his wife. Wlad never turn his back. Wlad is not selfish like Ali. Please do not compare Wlad to this man. Do not disparage Wlad. He is a good man.

In the ring right now he cannot be defeat. He win against anyone. He more dominant than Ali ever was. His strength is much larger than Ali, that is not debatable but some say, "ali just as strong." Ali not just as strong as wlad.

You wish me away so I go. No need for insults or accusations. I not insult any of you. I merely try to discuss rationally. Why say Ali beat Foreman. I watch fight. Foreman up at count of 8, why he counted out? That is not win. Wlad nothing liek Foremna either. he is intelligent and uses his jab more effectively and since entering his prime he doesnt punch himself out.

You all love Ali. That is fine, but you are blinded by it and a slave to it and it prohibits you from loving true champion and great man Wlad Klitschko.

look your clearly intellegent the way you right your posts but you have talked nonsense on this thread not everyone loves ali theie just saying wlad would get whoooptby him my man holyfield would also kick his ***** ass

[GoogleMe]

Wladimir Klitschko is stronger then most HW's in history.

[Wlad Klitschko]

look your clearly intellegent the way you right your posts but you have talked nonsense on this thread not everyone loves ali theie just saying wlad would get whoooptby him my man holyfield would also kick his ***** ass

Holyfield is a very good man. I like Holyfield. I think Holyfield beats Ali 9 out of 10 times. Aly used mind games and clinches to beat men like Holyfield. Holyfield would headbutt ali in the clinch, Holyfield also stronger than Ali and not intimidated by anyone. Holy would take all Ali had to offer and deal out more punishment. Holyfield cannot beat wlad though. Wlad would keep Holy awayw ith his jab and not offer holyfield chance to hit him in face. Holyfield give tough fight though and Wlad at times might look like chicken backing away, but Wlad would hold Holy off and challenge his stamina. Holyfield would never back down or allow himself to be held like Joe Frazier. He is smarter than young Foreman and more of a warrior. Alis games would not work on Holyfield. However, Wlad was not about games or intimidation. Wlad is about punching in the face and not being punched.

[NChristo]

but Wlad would hold Holy off and challenge his stamina. .

Ignoring your obvious hate for Ali and Klitschko nut hugging, do you really think that Holyfield would be the one was getting his stamina "challenged", I mean come on Wlad is notorious for gassing early which is why he has to pace himself and Holyfield is able to keep up a decent pace all fight.

He is smarter than young Foreman and more of a warrior.

More of a warrior then a young Foreman ?, I've heard it all.

Go to NSB and do your nut hugging there.

[GJC]

Love the innocent abroad act:
We have someone who deliberately forgets A's mixes up tenses as in this post:

I say it is second language. And bert sugar just old man. In the ring right now he cannot be defeat.

At other times we have good use of slang or certainly words not naturally used by someone for who English is a second language:

because he couldnt stop being pummelled to the face and he lost a ton of rounds

I want to know more abotu Terrell and how he stacks up in comparison to Wlad in terms of weight and KO%.

Reminds me of an actor doing a bad foreign accent, maybe Laurence Olivier in The Marathon Man?

And the complete innocence of this post:

Who is Terrell? Sorry, I only became a fan a few years ago. How long was he a HW champion for? Was he as big as Wlad, since you say Wlad was stronger because he was bigger, I assume Terrell must have been Wlad's size? Like around 250 lbs or something? I assume his KO ratio was around Wlads so in the 80% range, not some lowly 38% or something like that right?

But gets Terrell's KO% exactly right, or at least after ignoring the too obvious .18.

Cute but moronic try

[musiol]

No need to make fun of my English. I say it is second language. What other languages do you speek? And bert sugar just old man. Also slave to nostalgia like most on this forum. I do not come to insult individuals and I am not an alt as you say. I am simple fan on Wlad Klitschko. He is my favorite fighter and best ever heavyweight. He is knock out master and brilliant man. Why compare Wlad out of ring to Ali? Ali is not a noble man like Wlad. Ali is not a smart man like Wlad. Ali turn his back on his country, on his religion, on his wife. Wlad never turn his back. Wlad is not selfish like Ali. Please do not compare Wlad to this man. Do not disparage Wlad. He is a good man.

In the ring right now he cannot be defeat. He win against anyone. He more dominant than Ali ever was. His strength is much larger than Ali, that is not debatable but some say, "ali just as strong." Ali not just as strong as wlad.

You wish me away so I go. No need for insults or accusations. I not insult any of you. I merely try to discuss rationally. Why say Ali beat Foreman. I watch fight. Foreman up at count of 8, why he counted out? That is not win. Wlad nothing liek Foremna either. he is intelligent and uses his jab more effectively and since entering his prime he doesnt punch himself out.

You all love Ali. That is fine, but you are blinded by it and a slave to it and it prohibits you from loving true champion and great man Wlad Klitschko.

Holyfield is a very good man. I like Holyfield. I think Holyfield beats Ali 9 out of 10 times. Aly used mind games and clinches to beat men like Holyfield. Holyfield would headbutt ali in the clinch, Holyfield also stronger than Ali and not intimidated by anyone. Holy would take all Ali had to offer and deal out more punishment. Holyfield cannot beat wlad though. Wlad would keep Holy awayw ith his jab and not offer holyfield chance to hit him in face. Holyfield give tough fight though and Wlad at times might look like chicken backing away, but Wlad would hold Holy off and challenge his stamina. Holyfield would never back down or allow himself to be held like Joe Frazier. He is smarter than young Foreman and more of a warrior. Alis games would not work on Holyfield. However, Wlad was not about games or intimidation. Wlad is about punching in the face and not being punched.

this has been done on other threads to keep it short a think ali beats holyfield yes i can admit things like this unlike you lol holyfield outworks and batters a weary wlad to the ground in 9rounnds wlad will have a few moments in the first half of the fight as holyfield always tends to let his opponents get these

[Wlad Klitschko]

this has been done on other threads to keep it short a think ali beats holyfield yes i can admit things like this unlike you lol holyfield outworks and batters a weary wlad to the ground in 9rounnds wlad will have a few moments in the first half of the fight as holyfield always tends to let his opponents get these

Holyfield is much more of a warriro than young Foreman. Holyfield is scared of no one and has taken such beatings but keeps coming. I feel young wlad got gassed early. New Wlad spars much longer and hasnt had that issue. He doesnt worry about going late in rounds and he uses his punches wisely. I like Holyfield more than Ali and I think he beats Ali. That is not crime. Its opinion. Why attack an opinion. How would Ali keep Holyfiend away? would he clinch. Number 1 rule of boxing...Do not clinch holyfield.

[mrboxer]

And by strength i mean punching power and just lifting type strength, who would have more strength in the clinch, or if you put them in a gym who would lift more.

no doubt about it wlad is much stronger in terms of strength,he would probably lift twice as much as ali,but that has nothing to do with boxing if wlad fought ali in the ring or on the street wlad would get kayoed[fast]

[Wlad Klitschko]

no doubt about it wlad is much stronger in terms of strength,he would probably lift twice as much as ali,but that has nothing to do with boxing if wlad fought ali in the ring or on the street wlad would get kayoed[fast]

you think Ali would beat vitali in street fight? Vitali who could kick him in the face. Vitali who dont get knocked down by any man? Vitali would kill Ali in street fight. He has high level martial arts training as well. But you not care. to you Ali god, and Klitschko's just european trash. Open mind to reality

[NChristo]

you think Ali would beat vitali in street fight? Vitali who could kick him in the face. Vitali who dont get knocked down by any man? Vitali would kill Ali in street fight. He has high level martial arts training as well. But you not care. to you Ali god, and Klitschko's just european trash. Open mind to reality

He clearly said Wlad but I like how you changed it to Vitali who is a proven kick boxer to try and defend your claim.