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  • #81
    Originally posted by GoogleMe View Post
    Wladimir Klitschko is stronger then most HW's in history.
    He should invest in a better deodorant then.

    Poet

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Mikhnienko View Post
      So you're saying that Frazier hits harder than Sanders and Brewster? I disagree.
      I'll say flat out that Frazier punches harder than Sanders and Brewster. Size does NOT equal punching power.....this has been proven over and over again.

      Poet

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      • #83
        Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
        I'll say flat out that Frazier punches harder than Sanders and Brewster. Size does NOT equal punching power.....this has been proven over and over again.

        Poet
        I realize and agree with that. I'v actually gone into great detail in some threads regarding that. In this particular case though i'd say that Sanders definitely has better handspeed than Joe along with a 40lb advantage and greater overall strength and punching power. Lamon's handspeed is faster too imo along with strength and power but not by as much as wide a margin as Sanders

        Sanders hit as hard as Klychko and Lewis imo. I'm sure you'd try and bring up the Rahman fight to try and argue my opinion but same could be said for Foreman not flooring Ali yet Frazier did.

        Or more poignantly does Reggie Johnson hit harder than Peter or Rahman since he floored Toney, obviously not.
        Last edited by Mikhnienko; 08-17-2010, 01:31 PM.

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        • #84
          Wlad is four inches taller and thirty-five pounds heavier, so I'll say him. Wlad is a huge man.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by musiol View Post
            who can beat wlad please tell me????????????????????????/ out of my era of fighters i have lewis tyson holyfield bowe without doubt beating him and list goes on of the history of heavyweights so many poor fighters would have the chance of beating wlad as wlads record proves if you can **** a bit and have stamina you have a chance
            Wlad's pre prime record. In his prime Wlad is 11-0, 9 ko's, destroyed 5 undefeated fighters, 5 fighters with less than 5 losses. 9 title defenses. Has never been in trouble etc... If you take Ali out of his prime then he is easily beatable, either pre prime Ali where a guy like Chad Dawson probably could floor him (Dawson hits much harder than Cooper, and is much more skilled, and Ali needed smelling salt to stay awake from a one punch knock down) or post prime where a guy with 6 wins beat him. Why does Ali get prime but not Wlad?

            Also how do you say Lewis? Lewis got KO'd twice right away? You think he could take a Wlad left hook? What fighter of Wlad's calibur did Tyson beat? Wlad not fear Tyson, keep him away and beat him. Have to be tall to beat Wlad...little men have no chance. Bowe would be too chicken to face Wlad. Holyfield couldnt get inside of that jab and possibly would suffer great injury in the ring.

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            • #86
              If Muhammad Ali and Klit fought....I predict Tiiiiiiiiimmmmmmbbbbbbeeeerrrrrr

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              • #87
                Originally posted by boxing boy View Post
                If Muhammad Ali and Klit fought....I predict Tiiiiiiiiimmmmmmbbbbbbeeeerrrrrr
                I agree Ali goes down and so would his legacy. Just look at even his proudest moments.

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96MYT...eature=related

                Ali vs. Bonavena. What? Ali didnt have to go to a neutral corner? Why not? Oh yeah, he Ali he doesnt follow rules. I laugh at people who count some of his fights as "wins." Many brainwashed people here.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Mikhnienko View Post
                  Ignoring everything else do you really believe that Frazier hit harder than Corrie Sanders, even Brewster for that matter?
                  um.

                  Yes.

                  I think Corrie was a very big puncher, but he couldnt even put away Rahman.

                  And Brewster was a very exciting fighter, but still got gifts against Kali Meehan directly after TKOing Wladimir.


                  and I really dont get how you(I mean Wlad Klitschko guy) can use the Cooper knockdown on Ali when Ali was 21 but totally ignore Purrity's TKO of Wladimir when Wlad was 22.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Wlad Klitschko View Post
                    I agree Ali goes down and so would his legacy. Just look at even his proudest moments.

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96MYT...eature=related

                    Ali vs. Bonavena. What? Ali didnt have to go to a neutral corner? Why not? Oh yeah, he Ali he doesnt follow rules. I laugh at people who count some of his fights as "wins." Many brainwashed people here.
                    I thought you said Ali wasn't very tall? So how you say timber?

                    The Clit brothers are very tall you say.So i say Tiiiiiiimmmmmmmbbbbbbeeerrrr

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                    • #90
                      Joe Frazier brutaly KO's UNDEFEATED 6'3" 243 1/2lbs Buster Mathis.

                      Then George Foreman brutaly KO's UNDEFEATED Joe Frazier.

                      Then Muhammad Ali KO's UNDEFEATED unbeatable George Foreman.

                      Geeeezzzzzzz,how can UNDEFEATED 6'3" 243lb Buster Mathis be on the bottom of the list?

                      I mean,Mathis was just not big.He could move and dance around the ring.He was an excellent boxer,with good speed.But little Joe Frazier ended his career.He was never the same after getting half killed by Smokin' Joe.So how can this big skillful fighter be at the bottom of the list of these fighters? I thought these big,quick fighters would destroy those little fighters like Foreman,Frazier,and Ali?

                      Me thinks all four of these fighters whip the clit brothers.

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