your 10 Greatest Heavyweight Fights of All Time

[Dr. Z]

I'll informed and illiterate,par for the course.

Freak, stop spreading lies.

[Anthony342]

I'll informed and illiterate,par for the course.

Yep. Kinda like the guy that started this thread. Plus he had an irrational hatred for Lennox Lewis. Which is why I wish people would stop reviving that douchebag's threads.

[QueensburyRules]

I'm aware of your intent,my point is everyone seems to say," Alas poor Yorick I knew him well".
When the actual line is," Alas poor Yorick I knew him Horatio." There is being no , "well," in the sentence.

- - OK, I stand corrected. Twas a double mock up for you most especially...

[Ivich]

Please shut up and stop spreading lies and mis information. They dress in Apron like grab sometimes displaying symbols with white gloves. Perhaps not robes are not every meeting.

For those interested in Ivich's lying ability which he mixes in some facts as if he knows what he's taking about and you don't read on...

Freemason traditions cover a wide range of customs, practices and beliefs but perhaps the most prominent tradition is that of the Masonic regalia. These are the items that are not often seen by the public and are mainly worn during ceremonies, initiations, and rituals. This tradition is both historical and symbolic as it represents which level (or degree as it is referred to) a member is at within the organisation.

The three degrees are:

1st Degree – Entered Apprentice
2nd Degree – Fellowcraft
3rd Degree – Master Mason

Typical regalia, dependent on the degree and ceremony, includes a Masonic apron. Worn at meetings. The varying designs indicate the level of each member.

I give to charity for man and animal and the amount of which is not controlled by a secret society. Sure they raffle off amount for peanuts and raise money for legitmtate means..most of the time.

The dues for members are the foundation of this cult Pyramid like grave train for those at the top. Your eyes are wide shut!

Been googling halfwit? We do not dress in robes, neither is the amount we donate to charity governed by anyone except our own pockets.
Freemasonry is not a secret society,it is a society of secrets, of course a moron like you would not be able to distinguish the difference .
You know nothing about the subject,and its actually pitiful that a sub-normal cretin like yourself, who cannot even type a sentence without making howler spelling mistakes thinks he can impress others with his garbled and highly inaccurate account of our proceedings.
The lodge dues are for the upkeep of each individual lodge for the rent of the building ,and utilities.

Pyramid Scheme? lol . You embarrass yourself,you total ignoramus !

Can we now have the names of those on the list I provided that fall into the categories you previously mentioned?
ie
1.*****philes
2.Devil Worshippers
3.Freaks
Or will you, as you have from the very beginning you began this libel against Freemasonry ,over 2 years ago on ESB and continued here, since your lifelong ban there, still refuse to answer my question?
Fourteen US Presidents were Masons, which of them fall into the categories you gave?
.If you had half a brain you would be dangerous! LOL!!!!

[Dr. Z]

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Been googling halfwit? We do not dress in robes, neither is the amount we donate to charity governed by anyone except our own pockets.
Freemasonry is not a secret society,it is a society of secrets, of course a moron like you would not be able to distinguish the difference .
You know nothing about the subject,and its actually pitiful that a sub-normal cretin like yourself, who cannot even type a sentence without making howler spelling mistakes thinks he can impress others with his garbled and highly inaccurate account of our proceedings.
The lodge dues are for the upkeep of each individual lodge for the rent of the building ,and utilities.

Pyramid Scheme? lol . You embarrass yourself,you total ignoramus !

Can we now have the names of those on the list I provided that fall into the categories you previously mentioned?
ie
1.*****philes
2.Devil Worshippers
3.Freaks
Or will you, as you have from the very beginning you began this libel against Freemasonry ,over 2 years ago on ESB and continued here, since your lifelong ban there, still refuse to answer my question?
Fourteen US Presidents were Masons, which of them fall into the categories you gave?
.If you had half a brain you would be dangerous! LOL!!!!

Oh, I must have hit a nerve. Sure its is not a pyramid scheme. Sure. Sure you don't dress up funny! Whatever you say. Care to show us a video of the secret sessions? Why not? The FBI has info on what goes on during these " secret meetings ". Others have clammed various things about the members. Now go silk away.

[Ivich]

Thankyou for the link I will make a point to watch it.

Never seen this fight,just watched it ,he is right! It's a great fight!

[Ivich]

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Oh, I must have hit a nerve. Sure its is not a pyramid scheme. Sure. Sure you don't dress up funny! Whatever you say. Care to show us a video of the secret sessions? Why not? The FBI has info on what goes on during these " secret meetings ". Others have clammed various things about the members. Now go silk away.

FYI J Edgar Hoover was a Mason lol .

Yeah sure ,I have loads of videos of our meetings you ****ing Moron !!!!!

CLAMMED? SILK? WTF!

[Willie Pep 229]

Been googling halfwit? We do not dress in robes, neither is the amount we donate to charity governed by anyone except our own pockets.
Freemasonry is not a secret society,it is a society of secrets, of course a moron like you would not be able to distinguish the difference .
You know nothing about the subject,and its actually pitiful that a sub-normal cretin like yourself, who cannot even type a sentence without making howler spelling mistakes thinks he can impress others with his garbled and highly inaccurate account of our proceedings.
The lodge dues are for the upkeep of each individual lodge for the rent of the building ,and utilities.

Pyramid Scheme? lol . You embarrass yourself,you total ignoramus !

Can we now have the names of those on the list I provided that fall into the categories you previously mentioned?
ie
1.*****philes
2.Devil Worshippers
3.Freaks
Or will you, as you have from the very beginning you began this libel against Freemasonry ,over 2 years ago on ESB and continued here, since your lifelong ban there, still refuse to answer my question?
Fourteen US Presidents were Masons, which of them fall into the categories you gave?
.If you had half a brain you would be dangerous! LOL!!!!

I want to a ask the serious question (so I say).

Would a Free Mason in a government position give a contract to a fellow Free Mason's private firm over a company owned by a non-Free Mason? (All else being equal.)

That question has always been the true question regarding Free Masionary. It has always been about men of power and authority sharing opportunities and resources at the expense of the general public.

Has it? Does it?

I understand no answer shall be forthcoming.

That is not a challenge or criticism, I truly understsnd that the best Free Mason answer is/has always been, the non-answer.

But so long as the word 'secret,' no matter its context, is attached to Free Masonry, there will always be Dr. Zs in your life. What can you do?

[QueensburyRules]

- - Benjamin Brown "BB" French was a high ranking New Hampshire Congressman very close to Abe Lincoln.

He was also the Grand Mason of DC, so as the political landscape between the North and South crumbled, he wrote in desperation to his fellow masons across the country to avoid the split to no avail.

Top 20 Mason Boxers anyone?

[Ivich]

I want to a ask the serious question (so I say).

Would a Free Mason in a government position give a contract to a fellow Free Mason's private firm over a company owned by a non-Free Mason? (All else being equal.)

That question has always been the true question regarding Free Masionary. It has always been about men of power and authority sharing opportunities and resources at the expense of the general public.

Has it? Does it?

I understand no answer shall be forthcoming.

That is not a challenge or criticism, I truly understsnd that the best Free Mason answer is/has always been, the non-answer.

But so long as the word 'secret,' no matter its context, is attached to Free Masonry, there will always be Dr. Zs in your life. What can you do?

If I were in a position to dispense a contract ,and it came down to two individuals,both of whom were offering equal tenders, both of whom were personally unknown to me, I would give it to the brother Mason,simply because I know he has been examined and his conduct,and back ground found acceptable.
Can you give us a single occasion when you personally know a contract was awarded to a Mason because he was a brother and a more deserving non Mason did not get it,and the subsequent awarding of the contract was detrimental to the general public ?
Or are you just letting your imagination run riot?
I've answered your question,which you did not expect , now please answer mine?

Let me put a case to you I am long retired,but if I were still working and someone asked me,"do you know a good bricklayer,carpenter,carpet fitter whatever?" Then,providing I knew they were honest and capable at their trade, I would have no hesitation in recommending friends for those jobs.
Would you not do the same?
Another question, do you think non Masons do not favour their friends and associates over strangers in matters of business,and that the practice is confined solely to Masons?
If you do, I have to say your grasp of business affairs is a very naive one, and no insult is intended.

Masons do not attach the word secrecy to their affairs that is done by non Masons who are totally ignorant of the craft.
Muppets like Dr Z will always talk the loudest about subjects they know the least about.
In his case it is motivated by the fact that he knows I know his history on another forum,It is therefore in his interest to try and discredit me,thereby taking any negative attention away from himself.
He was hated on ESB and there are now 2 of us here who are also members of that forum as well . .JohnT and myself .

When a man states Masons are *****philes,devil worshippers ,and freaks,alarm bells should be ringing imo.

Such statements clearly indicate somebody is bigoted and unhinged to a very unhealthy extent.

Dr Z /Mendoza tries to pretend he is not permanently banned from ESB ,despite my posting the thread the moderator who banned him put up stating his regret that he ever allowed him back .JT emphatically confirmed that on this forum. Now lets get back to pugilism.