How Great Is Lennox Lewis's Resume?

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  • -CANE-
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    #191
    Originally posted by venom1
    fair enough he was born in uk and lived here until 12 fact is he still doesn't know what country he belongs to right? thats the main thing.

    What a complete and utter f.ucking idiot you are. He's british and always held a british passport.

    How is he supposed to represent britain in the amatuers, how would he of funded going backward and forward to britain you ignorant tosser.

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    • QueensburyRules
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      #192
      Originally posted by -CANE-


      What a complete and utter f.ucking idiot you are. He's british and always held a british passport.

      How is he supposed to represent britain in the amatuers, how would he of funded going backward and forward to britain you ignorant tosser.
      - - Eh, eh, Cane showing rare venom!

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      • QueensburyRules
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        #193
        Originally posted by sonnyboyx2

        the point raised was that Jack Dempsey refused to fight black fighters.. i countered by saying it was not Dempsey who drew up the color line it was a sign of the times in that period in history (1920s) i said Lewis chose to fight white guys and avoid all the top black fighters who was at the top of their game at that time (92-03)

        Soir - said Lewis fought all the top black guys and virtually no white guys, so micky has came up with the career record of Lewis and what skin color his opponents had and found its 24-18 blacks & whites.... none of the top black fighters when they was at the top of their game like, Holmes (92) WBO champ, Foreman, Moorer, Bowe, Hide, Tyson 96, Holyfield 92-97, Witherspoon 92-95, Byrd, Jones jr. 02-03

        Soir took this topic into another direction to try to discredit Jack Dempsey Mike Tyson & Rocky Marciano
        - - Leffy gonna spit out his dentures.

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        • Dr. Z
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          #194
          Originally posted by Southpaw Great
          How great is Lennox Lewis resume of wins?

          -Ossie Ocasio(Former WBA World Cruiserweight)
          -Gary Mason (35-0, British HW Champion)
          -Glenn McCrory (Former IBF CW Champion)
          -Tyrell Biggs (Super Heavweight Olympic Gold Medalist)
          -Donovan Ruddock
          -Tony Tucker (49-1)
          -Frank Bruno (Former WBC HW Champion)
          -Tommy Morrison (45-2, Former WBO HW Champion)
          -Ray Mercer
          -Oliver McCall
          -Henry Akinwande (32-0)
          -Andrew Golota
          -Shannon Briggs
          -Zeljko Mavrovic (27-0)
          -Evander Holyfield (3 Time HW Champion)
          -Michael Grant (31-0)
          -Francois Botha (40-2)
          -David Tua (37-1, 12 Straight Wins)
          -Hasim Rahma
          -Mike Tyson (49-3, 2 Time Undisputed HW Champion)
          -Vitali Klitschko (Current Number Home HW)

          Thoughts, were does it rank with ATG Resume's?
          The list is has three top 15 all time heavyweights and many top all time 100 heavyweights on it. Few fought better. Today no one is close to him.

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          • BattlingNelson
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            #195
            Originally posted by Dr. Z

            The list is has three top 15 all time heavyweights and many top all time 100 heavyweights on it. Few fought better. Today no one is close to him.
            It’s always about context. None of the, according to you, top 15 heavyweights, was close to their prime. The names look great though.

            The ko losses to clubfighters looks awful though. No context can erase those blemishes.
            Last edited by BattlingNelson; 10-17-2022, 02:27 PM.

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            • GhostofDempsey
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              #196
              Like Marciano, he fought whoever was there at the time. Bowe ducked him, and once he retired he stayed retired. Mostly because his wife didn't want him fighting again, but it's not as though he retired just to duck a rematch with Vitali and then come back later. He never fought Wlad, but I don't know who was at fault for that fight not being made.

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              • JAB5239
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                #197
                Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                Like Marciano, he fought whoever was there at the time. Bowe ducked him, and once he retired he stayed retired. Mostly because his wife didn't want him fighting again, but it's not as though he retired just to duck a rematch with Vitali and then come back later. He never fought Wlad, but I don't know who was at fault for that fight not being made.
                Wasn't he supposed to fight Wlad, but Waldo got knocked out by Sanders? I could be mistaken.

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                • GhostofDempsey
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                  #198
                  Originally posted by JAB5239

                  Wasn't he supposed to fight Wlad, but Waldo got knocked out by Sanders? I could be mistaken.
                  That makes sense. Wlad lost his title in 2003 and that's the year Lewis defeated Vitali and retired from the sport.

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                    #199
                    LMAO reading this thread. I used to consider both Carlos and Cane two of my forum pals back in the day, and I got along great with Sonnyboy the back half of his time here after constantly fighting with him the first half

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                    • Rosco3387
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                      #200
                      Lewis is a fighter where one has to really look carefully to evaluate his resume. The biggest error people make is ignoring context: Lets take three names: Grant, Tua and Briggs. Easy to dismiss them but if one looks carefully... When Grant fought lewis he was considered a nightmare. Lewis actually avoided a fight with Ruiz who was not considered a threat at all to fight Grant who the fans wanted to see against Lewis. Ask yourself how Grant would do today, considering the skill levels we see... And Tua? also considered a live dog. But of these three Briggs is the one that is most deceptive. When Lewis fought Briggs he was considered a real young lion. He was beating people and not what he later became lol.

                      Lewis' resume is littered with such names: Golota, Ruddock... two fighters considered really dangerous at the time... And of course fellow ATG level guys like Holyfield... And wraps it up opening up Vitalie!

                      Lewis never ducked opponents, of course Queensbury will prattle about "Bowe and Ruiz" lol... Was Lewis great? Yes. I would argue his resume was one of the strongest when we consider the average level of his competition. he never fought an fellow ATG at prime, but how many heavyweights got that option?

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