How Great Is Lennox Lewis's Resume?

[beez721]

McCall was a bull who could have went the distance with anybody. Not just went the distance either, but given anybody a handful.

he was always considered nothing more than a journeyman before he caught lewis. come on man,,,he's lost to mike hunter,,,orlin norris,,tony tucker and buster douglass. he hasnt beaten any top fighters besides lewis.hell,,,,he lost to an old shot frank bruno! he's a journeyman with a good chin that caught a suspect chinned lewis

[Joeyzagz]

he wasnt winning the first fight with mcall. dont make excuses. he got caught and knocked out plain and simple.

I think scorecards are as good as toilet paper in the event of a KO/TKO but the judges did have Lewis winning every single completed round in both fights.

it doesnt matter? winning rematches helps but it doesnt erase the fact he was knocked out. he's 1-1 in fights with mcall and rahman

it doesnt matter means he still has a WIN over everyone he ever faced. The two losses have no affect on the truth of my initial statement.

Why is THAT important? Its important because it proves that Lennox was capable of beating everyone on his resume'. We dont know if Foreman was capable of beating Ali, or if Tyson was capable of beating Douglas, Vitali/Byrd because these things never happened.

We know for a fact that Lennox beats everyone he ever fought at least once, and this can not be disputed.

[sonnyboyx2]

I think scorecards are as good as toilet paper in the event of a KO/TKO but the judges did have Lewis winning every single completed round in both fights.



it doesnt matter means he still has a WIN over everyone he ever faced. The two losses have no affect on the truth of my initial statement.

Why is THAT important? Its important because it proves that Lennox was capable of beating everyone on his resume'. We dont know if Foreman was capable of beating Ali, or if Tyson was capable of beating Douglas, Vitali/Byrd because these things never happened.

We know for a fact that Lennox beats everyone he ever fought at least once, and this can not be disputed.

all Lewis opponents were Class C fighters `Journeymen, Clubfighters and has-beens` who he was expected to beat yet he got poleaxed by 2 of them.. you mention Foreman/Ali, Tyson/Douglas & Vitali/Byrd yet Lewis never fought anyone who was in the same league as Douglas, Foreman or Byrd infact Lewis was stripped of his IBF title for refusing to fight Chris Byrd just like he was stripped of the WBA title for refusing to fight John Ruiz and the WBC for refusing to face Vitali in a rematch when Vitali was the No1 contender... Tyson Foreman & Vitali all put up tremendous battles against their opponents before they lost yet Lewis was completely destroyed by McCall & Rahman

[Hitman Hodgson]

Prime Lewis gives any HW in a history a run for their money, and I think he beats most of them head to head.

[sonnyboyx2]

Prime Lewis gives any HW in a history a run for their money, and I think he beats most of them head to head.

why then did he not give the very limited Oliver McCall a run for his money

[Joeyzagz]

all Lewis opponents were Class C fighters

Every HW save for Ali will have a bunch of "C class" fighters on it. All opponents cant be 28, 50-0, with 50 KOs, its just not realistic. But your comment about Journeymen/hasbeen is flat out false, and the numbers say otherwise..

Age of Lennox and his last 10 opponentsAge Difference

Lennox(37) vs Vitali(31) +6
Lennox(36) vs Tyson(35) +1
Lennox(35) vs Rahman(28) +7
Lennox(35) vs David Tua(27) +8
Lennox(35) vs Botha(31) +4
Lennox(34) vs Michael Grant(27) +7
Lennox(33) vs Holyfield(36) -3
Lennox(33) vs Marovic(29) +4
Lennox(32) vs Briggs(26) +6
Lennox(32) vs Golota(29) +3

= +40 years

The average opponent had a 4 year youth advantage over Lennox, and Lennox overcame all 10! Compare that to other HWs who retired defeating every opponent

Id specifically like to see someone do a chart on Marciano's last 10 opponents. Youd probably get a number like -30, which is even more embarrassing considering a lot of those guys were LHW's.

infact Lewis was stripped of his IBF title for refusing to fight Chris Byrd just like he was stripped of the WBA title for refusing to fight John Ruiz and the WBC for refusing to face Vitali in a rematch when Vitali was the No1 contender...

Marciano and Gene Tunney were stripped of their titles as well. You dont get to keep them if you dont fight. Yet you nitpick the 38 year old for retiring and not the two guys who were 31 and 32... no one can fight forever.

[sonnyboyx2]

Every HW save for Ali will have a bunch of "C class" fighters on it. All opponents cant be 28, 50-0, with 50 KOs, its just not realistic. But your comment about Journeymen/hasbeen is flat out false, and the numbers say otherwise..

Age of Lennox and his last 10 opponentsAge Difference

Lennox(37) vs Vitali(31) +6
Lennox(36) vs Tyson(35) +1
Lennox(35) vs Rahman(28) +7
Lennox(35) vs David Tua(27) +8
Lennox(35) vs Botha(31) +4
Lennox(34) vs Michael Grant(27) +7
Lennox(33) vs Holyfield(36) -3
Lennox(33) vs Marovic(29) +4
Lennox(32) vs Briggs(26) +6
Lennox(32) vs Golota(29) +3

= +40 years

The average opponent had a 4 year youth advantage over Lennox, and Lennox overcame all 10! Compare that to other HWs who retired defeating every opponent

Id specifically like to see someone do a chart on Marciano's last 10 opponents. Youd probably get a number like -30, which is even more embarrassing considering a lot of those guys were LHW's.



Marciano and Gene Tunney were stripped of their titles as well. You dont get to keep them if you dont fight. Yet you nitpick the 38 year old for retiring and not the two guys who were 31 and 32... no one can fight forever.

Marciano and Gene Tunney were stripped of their titles?

its the quality of Lewis opponents that matters not their age.. they was journeymen club-fighters & hasbeens and for you to claim otherwise is simply not facing up to the facts.

Lewis chose to hand-pick his opponents for harmlessness instead of fighting the top fighters who was at the "TOP OF THEIR GAME" like Foreman, Holmes, Hide, Wlad, Ruiz, Byrd, Witherspoon, Tyson 96, Bowe 93 & 95, Holyfield, Sanders, Moorer.

[Joeyzagz]

Lewis chose to hand-pick his opponents for harmlessness instead of fighting the top fighters who was at the "TOP OF THEIR GAME" like Foreman, Holmes, Hide, Wlad, Ruiz, Byrd, Witherspoon, Tyson 96, Bowe 93 & 95, Holyfield, Sanders, Moorer.

Tyson and Don King paid Lennox millions not to fight. Lennox has wanted Tyson since they were kids, and Tyson only budged when he was broke.

Bowe threw his Heavyweight title in the trash,and deliberately avoided Lennox. Lennox Ko'd him in the amatuers so that may have something to do with it.

Holmes hasnt been on top of his game since he lost to a light heavyweight in the 80's. Then brutally Ko'd . If Lennox beat a 40+ Holmes youd put him in the same category as 2000's Tyson and Holyfield, and discredit the win.

Briggs, Morrison, and Holyfield all beat OLD Foreman. And Lennox beat all 3 of them. Again you complain about Lennox fighting past prime fighters but want him to fight even more past-prime fighters?

Byrd, Sanders, Ruiz, Wlad, Vitali all emerged after Lennox turned 35. Vitali ended up having the best career out of those 5 and thats who Lennox beat.

Marciano and Gene Tunney were stripped of their titles?

Yes Marciano and Tunney were stripped of their titles. They dont have them anymore.

[sonnyboyx2]

Tyson and Don King paid Lennox millions not to fight. Lennox has wanted Tyson since they were kids, and Tyson only budged when he was broke.

Bowe threw his Heavyweight title in the trash,and deliberately avoided Lennox. Lennox Ko'd him in the amatuers so that may have something to do with it.

Holmes hasnt been on top of his game since he lost to a light heavyweight in the 80's. Then brutally Ko'd . If Lennox beat a 40+ Holmes youd put him in the same category as 2000's Tyson and Holyfield, and discredit the win.

Briggs, Morrison, and Holyfield all beat OLD Foreman. And Lennox beat all 3 of them. Again you complain about Lennox fighting past prime fighters but want him to fight even more past-prime fighters?

Byrd, Sanders, Ruiz, Wlad, Vitali all emerged after Lennox turned 35. Vitali ended up having the best career out of those 5 and thats who Lennox beat.



Yes Marciano and Tunney were stripped of their titles. They dont have them anymore.

Lennox Lewis never had to accept step-a-side money he could easily have said no and went ahead and fought Tyson for a guaranteed career highest payday and world title fight, Tyson wanted to become undisputed champion and stop the title from becoming fragmented... link below proves Lewis was afraid to fight Tyson in 96.

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/07/04/sp...l?pagewanted=1

Bowe was Undisputed Champion and offered Lewis a 75/25 deal in 93 Lewis baulked, yet Bowe had accepted the same deal from Holyfield in 92 because he knew he would beat Holyfield whereas Lewis knew he stood little chance against Bowe.. Lewis also turned down a career highest purse to fight Bowe in 95... links below to prove me correct

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/07/04/sp...l?pagewanted=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0eins2DhSo

Foreman was a world champion whereas Botha, Butler, Tucker, Jackson, Fortune, Grant, Akinwande, Mavrovic was all journeymen and Holmes beat Mercer in the early 90s far easier than Lewis did some years earlier

[Joeyzagz]

Bowe held a press conference where he threw the belt in the trash. I dont see how you can get more blatant and obvious than that. An interview 15 years later does not erase his actions then. He did this stunt in addition to trying to price himself out with a 75/25 split. Pricing out and throwing the belt, it is quite absurd how scared he was.

But enough"what ifs" ...they did fight in 88 and Lennox won.


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