Dwight Muhamed Qawi called Marvin Hagler out

[General Zod]

Hagler was a middleweight, we are talking a 15 pound difference here. Hagle called out some junior middleweights that's not the same thing plus Hagler was only doing that because the guys at middleweight he already beat. And he wanted a payday. There was not much catch weight fighting going on back then.

Hagler called out: Benitez, Duran, Hearns and Leonard

[prinzemanspopa]

Hagler was allowed to call out men who fought thirteen pounds below his own weight but fifteen pounds difference between the middleweight and light heavyweight division is clearly too much for fragile Marvis to take on Qawi and Spinks.

[JAB5239]

Hagler was allowed to call out men who fought thirteen pounds below his own weight but fifteen pounds difference between the middleweight and light heavyweight division is clearly too much for fragile Marvis to take on Qawi and Spinks.

Hagler was a VERY small middleweight. I have met him and he is very small. He consistently stayed about 160, 165 all year long, not like today's middleweights who walk around at 185 and than cut way down with the benefit of weigh ins a day and a half before the fight.

[HaglerSteelChin]

Paul Williams, Timothy Bradley, and Shane Mosley all have called out Pacquaio- using the same reasoning than Pac is a coward not to fight them?

[TheGreatA]

If I had the choice to take on either Sugar Ray Leonard/Thomas Hearns or Dwight Qawi/Michael Spinks, I know what choice I would make.

Spinks would have been calling out Leonard too if Leonard had shown any interest in such a fight, regardless of size. Everyone wanted to fight him.

[HaglerSteelChin]

If I had the choice to take on either Sugar Ray Leonard/Thomas Hearns or Dwight Qawi/Michael Spinks, I know what choice I would make.

Spinks would have been calling out Leonard too if Leonard had shown any interest in such a fight, regardless of size. Everyone wanted to fight him.

Truer words couldn't be spoken. Its not like the old days where guys fought every month and had well over 100 fights in their career. Back than, you fought everyone and even fought one guy 4 times.

I am sure if Hagler moved up and didn't fight guys like Hearns, Mugabi, or SRL he would be classified as a ducker.

Holyfield has been seen as one of the most tough guys out there- he fought every MF win lose or draw- yet peole say he move up to cruiser early on his career simply because he "Ducked" Michael Spinks.

Lou Duva called out Tyson almost immediately after Tyson won the HW title. But if Tyson would have fought Holyfield instead of unifying the title against guys like Tucker, Bonecrusher, and Spinks he also would have been labeled a ducker.

I personally think that Hagler would have loss somthing if he went to LHW. I see his body as a three division fighter JMW, MW, and SMW. I do think he could have been a SMW champ also. At LHW i think he his great conditioning and great chin would have made him a good opponent against Qawi, i see him losing against Spinks by decision. They would have needed a catchweight at 170, to make it interesting.

[Calilloyd]

yeah i forgot to mention hagler also avoided spinks who called him out a couple of times in ring magazine interviews

Hagler was a middleweight. You can't call it ducking when the other guy is in another division.Carlos Monzon never fought Bob Foster if you want to look at it like that.

[Calilloyd]

Hagler was a VERY small middleweight. I have met him and he is very small. He consistently stayed about 160, 165 all year long, not like today's middleweights who walk around at 185 and than cut way down with the benefit of weigh ins a day and a half before the fight.

Good point. And Hearns was actually the bigger fighter when he fought Hagler.

[mickey malone]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snopkins
Miss Marvis only wanted to fight smaller men for paydays.That's why he spent his early years as middleweight champion calling out welterweights.
Hagler was terrified of Qawi and Michael Spinks who also wanted a piece of him.
Not sure about it being a classic.I personally think Qawi would have ripped him a new one.
A great fight that never happened was Qawi vs Marvis Johnson

r.burgundy
agreed.thats why i dont think highly of marvin as a fighter

The Steptoe and son of Boxing Scene..

If Hagler can stand toe to toe with Tommy Hearns at full throttle, neither Quawi or Spinks are knocking him down, let alone out.. Other than weight, Quawi would be the smaller man against Hagler who would have at least 4" in reach plus a couple of inches in height.. He's also got faster hands and quicker feet, so what's Quawi got over him other than physical strength?.. The answer is 'Jack ****'
Purely on styles, Hagler would beat him. He was one of the very best of all time at fighting off the back foot.. Quawi as a strictly come forward to get on the inside fighter, who would be out manouvered and dominated by the precision right jab of Hagler.. Dwight may have some brief spells of success on the inside, but Hagler was no slouch himself in that department, and would be too cute to allow Quawi to cut off the ring. In other words, most of this fight would take place well away from the ropes, and there wouldn't be too much 'mauling and brawling' - an MMA term often referred to by Popkins as a boxing discipline, and an area on which fights should be judged..

Spinks would be a boxing match for the purists.. They'd be equal in reach and as against Quawi, Spinks would be punching down..
Would he be susceptable to Hagler's lefts to the body as a result of this?..
Would he have been adept at handling a world class southpaw?
Tbh, I think the answer is yes on both counts. Like Hagler, Spinks can hurt you as much going backwards as he can going forwards, so whatever way you look at it, these 2 are having one hell of a close fight.. No one's getting dominated, thats for sure..

[r.burgundy]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snopkins
Miss Marvis only wanted to fight smaller men for paydays.That's why he spent his early years as middleweight champion calling out welterweights.
Hagler was terrified of Qawi and Michael Spinks who also wanted a piece of him.
Not sure about it being a classic.I personally think Qawi would have ripped him a new one.
A great fight that never happened was Qawi vs Marvis Johnson

r.burgundy
agreed.thats why i dont think highly of marvin as a fighter

The Steptoe and son of Boxing Scene..

If Hagler can stand toe to toe with Tommy Hearns at full throttle, neither Quawi or Spinks are knocking him down, let alone out.. Other than weight, Quawi would be the smaller man against Hagler who would have at least 4" in reach plus a couple of inches in height.. He's also got faster hands and quicker feet, so what's Quawi got over him other than physical strength?.. The answer is 'Jack ****'
Purely on styles, Hagler would beat him. He was one of the very best of all time at fighting off the back foot.. Quawi as a strictly come forward to get on the inside fighter, who would be out manouvered and dominated by the precision right jab of Hagler.. Dwight may have some brief spells of success on the inside, but Hagler was no slouch himself in that department, and would be too cute to allow Quawi to cut off the ring. In other words, most of this fight would take place well away from the ropes, and there wouldn't be too much 'mauling and brawling' - an MMA term often referred to by Popkins as a boxing discipline, and an area on which fights should be judged..

Spinks would be a boxing match for the purists.. They'd be equal in reach and as against Quawi, Spinks would be punching down..
Would he be susceptable to Hagler's lefts to the body as a result of this?..
Would he have been adept at handling a world class southpaw?
Tbh, I think the answer is yes on both counts. Like Hagler, Spinks can hurt you as much going backwards as he can going forwards, so whatever way you look at it, these 2 are having one hell of a close fight.. No one's getting dominated, thats for sure..

1st off,theres a very good reason hagler didnt fight spinks or qawi.he knew it was a good chance he would get his ass kicked.marvin was a physical mismatch for the mw's fought but would have no such advantage over qawi or spinks.hagler/duran was fought at very close quarters and marvin wasnt able to dent him,so seriously doubt anything he throws is bothering qawi or spinks.it also took him 11 rounds to get rid of mugabi,and he ate plenty leather along the way.if qawi/spinks land as much as mugabi,hagler would be put to bed.hagler seemed bothered by the power of roldan who was mayorgaesque.so lets stop this notion that hagler was a defensive wizard.he wasnt.he was hit often in his career.

and saying cause hagler went toe to toe with hearns and walked threw him is plain hillarious.hearns was a paper thin ww,and has only k.od 1 fighter of note above 147.a past it duran.hearns broke his hand in round 1 and only landed 1 good shot.theres a reason hagler jumped all over hearns from the outset.its cause he knew he would walk through tommys shot,as he had done all the other ww he chose to fight.spinks had dynamite in both hand and was well bigger than tommy with much better boxing skills than tommy,and a good chin.and no they werent equal and reach and spinks was light years ahead in speed.im not 1 for saying guys who have never been stopped get stopped,but no way in hell hagler sees the final bell