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Originally posted by Barnburner View PostI feel he has over-rated power. He's not in the same league as Foreman, Liston, Marciano and Shavers.
I remember reading in a book about Dempsey, and fighters who fought him said they have never felt power like his and it was like getting hit by a truck.
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Originally posted by Pastrano View PostLangford is too high up. Baer sure hit harder than him!
How do you figure? Langford was 30 to 40lbs lighter at their best weights and was knocking heavyweights cold with one shot, the same as Baer. P4p it stands to reason because of this Langford is the better p4p pouncher.
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Originally posted by Barnburner View PostDempsey couldn't even properly KO Williard, if Foreman or Liston got that many clean punches in, Williard is history.
Saying he punched harder than Liston is crazy in my opinion.
And it's no cert Liston knocks out Willard cold. Journyman Bert Whitehurst did go the distance with him when Liston was in his prime, someone who I feels Dempsey KO's. Lesser fighters with less durablity went the distance with Liston, so its not out the question Willard could.
I remember reading in my Gene Tunney book, Gene said Dempsey power was just outright scary, something which he'd never felt before. And that was Jack past his best aswell.
He may be overrated, but Jack Dempsey's power can't be denied imo.
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Originally posted by Southpaw Power View PostWillard had a insane chin do. Dempsey broke his jaw, cheekbone, burst his ear drum and evetually stopped him. C'mon man, that is scary power.
And it's no cert Liston knocks out Willard cold. Journyman Bert Whitehurst did go the distance with him when Liston was in his prime, someone who I feels Dempsey KO's. Lesser fighters with less durablity went the distance with Liston, so its not out the question Willard could.
I remember reading in my Gene Tunney book, Gene said Dempsey power was just outright scary, something which he'd never felt before. And that was Jack past his best aswell.
He may be overrated, but Jack Dempsey's power can't be denied imo.
I've had a busted eardrum in a gloved fight before.
What other power punchers did Gene Tunney actually face? It was probably his first experience of very good power. I'm not saying Dempsey was feather-fisted here. I'm just saying he doesn't belong in the Top 10 ATG power hitters.
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Originally posted by Barnburner View PostKen Norton broke Ali's jaw, did he have scary power?
I've had a busted eardrum in a gloved fight before.
What other power punchers did Gene Tunney actually face? It was probably his first experience of very good power. I'm not saying Dempsey was feather-fisted here. I'm just saying he doesn't belong in the Top 10 ATG power hitters.
Ray Arcel claimed Dempsey was probaly the hardest puncher he EVER saw in his lifetime. That speaks for itself.
Dempsey also KO'd more durable fighters & overall better fighters than Liston did.
To say it's crazy to compare Dempseys power to Liston's is utter BS.
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