Did Edwin Valero do enough to warrant IBHOF induction?

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  • Suckmedry
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    #11
    Didn't beat enough top guys tbh

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    • mhager91490
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      #12
      The best names on his record are Vincente Mosquera and DeMarco, he didn't look great against Mosquera, the fight was close and he was put on his ass in the third if memory serves me correctly. He looked very good against DeMarco but it was not like DeMarco was favored to win by many though he was a step-up from Valero's normal competition. Hector Velazquez was a recognizable name, but he was a shot fighter who was above his best weight, Pitalua was a dangerous puncher but that is about it, he had one good win over a world class opponent in Jose Armando Santa Cruz but other than that he was only tested against Mexican national competition. Other than that the best names on Valero's record are Shimeda and Whyber Garcia who are sub-par to average fighters at best. He is nowhere near being worthy of IBHOF induction, he is just another Tony Ayala Jr. and I would bet he is going to be mythologized like Ayala in the future.

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      • bojangles1987
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        #13
        For what? Seriously, name one special thing Valero did. I'm not even joking.

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        • mhager91490
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          #14
          Also who voted Yes?

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          • BigStereotype
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            #15
            Originally posted by 1SILVA
            I know this might cause some controversy, but did Edwin Valero do enough in his career to warrant induction into the IBHOF? I'd like your thoughts.
            Are you ****in ******? His best win is Antonio DeMarco. And, there's the little matter of the grisly murder-****ing-suicide. That'd be a big stain on the IBHOF, wouldn't it? Nothing he accomplished in the ring comes anywhere near overcoming the circumstances leading up to his death. Even on accomplishments alone, he doesn't sniff the hall of fame.

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            • DeepSleep
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              #16
              He's not even close.

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              • 1SILVA
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                #17
                Originally posted by AmericanYeti
                Are you ****in ******? His best win is Antonio DeMarco. And, there's the little matter of the grisly murder-****ing-suicide. That'd be a big stain on the IBHOF, wouldn't it? Nothing he accomplished in the ring comes anywhere near overcoming the circumstances leading up to his death. Even on accomplishments alone, he doesn't sniff the hall of fame.
                I voted no. I do these polls every time a fighter dies. There are guys who think fighters like Mickey Ward and Earnie Shavers deserve induction. Valero had HOF ability, but not a HOF resume. Killing your wife doesn't eliminate you from being inducted, but I agree with most observers. Valero's body of work is not HOF quality. I'm not ******, just wanted the fans insight on his career.

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                • Miburo
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                  #18
                  He'll go down as infamous, not famous.

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                  • mickey malone
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by mhager91490
                    The best names on his record are Vincente Mosquera and DeMarco, he didn't look great against Mosquera, the fight was close and he was put on his ass in the third if memory serves me correctly. He looked very good against DeMarco but it was not like DeMarco was favored to win by many though he was a step-up from Valero's normal competition. Hector Velazquez was a recognizable name, but he was a shot fighter who was above his best weight, Pitalua was a dangerous puncher but that is about it, he had one good win over a world class opponent in Jose Armando Santa Cruz but other than that he was only tested against Mexican national competition. Other than that the best names on Valero's record are Shimeda and Whyber Garcia who are sub-par to average fighters at best. He is nowhere near being worthy of IBHOF induction, he is just another Tony Ayala Jr. and I would bet he is going to be mythologized like Ayala in the future.
                    Spot on analysis!

                    Shame Ayala never killed himself as well.. I'm sure a lot of innocents would have had a much better life if he had..

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                    • GameGod
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                      #20
                      He never beat anyone of skill of ability. There's no chance that he warrants an IBHOF induction.

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