Kostya Tszyu vs. Floyd Mayweather, Jr. @ 140

[The_Demon]

people are underrating KT here.im not saying he would win but he would certainly give mayweather trouble

[CarlosG815]

I don't see Mayweather actively going for the stoppage against the hardest puncher 140 ever saw. Like I said, he is far from ******. Unless Zoo keeps coming and offers the right openings, Mayweather will be happy to win on points. Mayweather rarely pushes the issue unless he is forced to (Hatton, Chavez, who just kept coming) or the opponent does not belong in the ring with him (anyone in '03-'05). Even in the Corrales fight, he was not looking for the stoppage.

How do you know Zoo was "a little" past his prime against Hatton? Not saying he was not, but he might also be "well" past it, being that he was 36yo and with only 2 rounds in a few years under the belt.

How does defending from Hatton's wrestling has anything to do with defending from Mayweather? Again not saying Zoo is Pea, but how is the Hatton fight relevant?

How do you see Zoo throwing "twice as many punches"? It's not quite his style.

I don't know that zoo was "a little" past prime, I happen to think he was pretty far past prime, as I mention in another thread but that seems to piss a lot of people off, as they want to believe that zoo was prime to elevate Hatton's win.

I believe that any great boxer beats Ricky Hatton - the fact that Kostya could not deal Hatton tells me that he couldn't deal with the greatest boxer in boxing today - Floyd Mayweather.

Just because I said zoo throws twice as many punches doesn't mean he's throwing a ton of punches.

Floyd is a pretty good finisher and the fact that he was able to KO guys like Ricky Hatton and Arturo Gatti tells me that, while it's not guaranteed, it's very possible that he KO's zoo in the later rounds.

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Mayweather trashes Tszyu. He hits harder and much more accurately than Hatton and would frustrate him even more, albeit in a different way. Tszyu is accurate, but slow and telegraphed, Mayweather counters him all night to an 8th round TKO.

Floyd would never KO KT,not if they fought a hundred times......it would be a Mayweather decision....and it would be like Castillo number 2....Floyd would move and only engage KT one punch at a time.

[check hook]

Yeah, I would take Floyd but not nearly by the margin people are saying. tszyu has become absurdly underrated by most guys here. I would take a prime Tszyu as being the guy that fought Jake Rodriguez, Jan Bergman or later Diobelys Hurtado etc. and if you think he was slow and plodding, well, I don't know what to say but laugh.

He would be a harder fight for Mayweather than anyone has been so far in my opinion. I don't think he would win but he would get closer than most, and he definitely has a very good chance.

The Tszyu that fought Judah had already slowed quite a bit and was not a prime example.

This is a prime example.

People seem to forget KT was incredibly intelligent in the ring....he set traps and he understood how to cut the ring off and apply "intelligent" pressure.

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All everyone needs to know is that floyd called KT and A+ fighter...and whenever he was asked about him...it was nothing but respect out of Floyds mouth..........

[mike2hype]

kostya in his prime would beat mayweather at junior welter and welter weight mayweather just came up at a bad time and picked up the pieces of fallen divisions and fighters he should be glad he avoided kostya, trinidad, whittaker, terry norrace, frankie randall, chavez and other champs of the 90's..... ohhh and yori boy campas before he fought trinidad.

[them_apples]

So was JMM..... Timing aint the way to beat Floyd. You don't time him. He times you.

thats not true, timing can beat anyone. he's eaten some mean shots from being out timed.

[them_apples]

I honestly don't think Tszyu could beat any American greats. I'm sure he's a hero where you're from, but he is not going to come close to being competitive with the greatest fighter in boxing today.

Manny Pacquiao is the greatest boxer around today. He's done more than Floyd and done a better job doing it.

[Suckmedry]

thats not true, timing can beat anyone. he's eaten some mean shots from being out timed.

True, timing would in theory be the best way to combat a fighter with Floyd's speed.

Unfortunately Floyd also has probably the best timing in the game Although you could make cases for JMM and B-Hop

[Suckmedry]

On the subject of best fighters around today, timing, both on leads and counters, is exactly how you beat Manny Pacquiao. JMM showed it, and if his chin was sturdier he would have posted two clear W's over Manny.

Cotto showed a bit of it early on vs Manny, but Manny took away Miguel's rhythm by landing his own shots through Miguel's leaky defence and hurting him. Turned the whole fight around. Floyd will do the same to Manny, time him with jabs, lead rights, lead hooks, counters, but unlike Cotto Floyd won't be thrown off his game and Manny won't be finding Floyd much.