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  • QueensburyRules
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    #41
    Originally posted by Southpaw16BF
    Enchancing Drugs?

    Do You?
    - - An unlucky 13 years later after all the chickens have come home to roost, clearly it's TBE TUE l'l floydy doing the juicing all along aided by his good buddys, his uncle Al and the rotating circus of the Vegas Commish...

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      #42
      Yes.

      As soon as he was acccused of PEDs, He went from knocking out everything to knocking out nothing.

      He is the Barry Bonds of boxing. He was a hall of famer before the enhancing drugs just like pacman

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        #43
        Originally posted by Hustle
        Yes.

        As soon as he was acccused of PEDs, He went from knocking out everything to knocking out nothing.

        He is the Barry Bonds of boxing. He was a hall of famer before the enhancing drugs just like pacman
        - - TBE TUE paid a civil settlement to Manny along with a letter of apology from l'l floydy and he crack daddy that he always went squallin' to when things was too tough in a fight.

        Barry Bonds was on the infamous BALCO list of clients.

        Manny passed VADA testing that l'l floydy ducked and whoopeed l'l floydy former mandatory, the undefeated Thurman, who l'l floydy also ducked...c'est la vie...

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          #44
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules

          - - TBE TUE paid a civil settlement to Manny along with a letter of apology from l'l floydy and he crack daddy that he always went squallin' to when things was too tough in a fight.

          Barry Bonds was on the infamous BALCO list of clients.

          Manny passed VADA testing that l'l floydy ducked and whoopeed l'l floydy former mandatory, the undefeated Thurman, who l'l floydy also ducked...c'est la vie...
          Manny being on peds is an opinion because he never failed a test and neither did bonds.

          but the knockouts stopped when the accusations started. Thats just a fact

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            #45
            Originally posted by Hustle

            Manny being on peds is an opinion because he never failed a test and neither did bonds.

            but the knockouts stopped when the accusations started. Thats just a fact
            - - You don't have an informed opinion, nor the ability to process differing variables.

            Manny has been drug tested most of his career. MLB has never implemented serious drug testing on the players because of strong Player Union power.

            The other Olympic athletes and Shane Mosely on BALCO's client list were passing testing because of limited testing parameters.

            BALCO Barry's infamous record setting slugging tour only happened after his career ending achilles heel injury where he was put on their program.

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              #46
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules

              - - You don't have an informed opinion, nor the ability to process differing variables.

              Manny has been drug tested most of his career. MLB has never implemented serious drug testing on the players because of strong Player Union power.

              The other Olympic athletes and Shane Mosely on BALCO's client list were passing testing because of limited testing parameters.

              BALCO Barry's infamous record setting slugging tour only happened after his career ending achilles heel injury where he was put on their program.
              Has bonds ever failed a drug test for PEDs? The answer is no.

              Has Pacquiao ever failed a drug test for PEDs? The answer is no.



              I don't care about the mlb not testing for steroids in the 90s. When they did start testing, bonds was clean on all of them. unlike Manny ramirez and Raphael palmeiro,

              Like i said. Bonds and pac were hall of famers even before steroid accusations.

              Last edited by Hustle; 03-09-2023, 01:39 PM.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Hannibal Barca

                Good post.

                But again, regardless of what anyone says. Any man who's that against being tested for PED's deserves whatever criticism he receives afterwards.
                Good thing he eventually agreed to testing then.

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                  #48
                  Is there any window of opportunity where a fighter can use steroids as a supplement to recovery from an injury?

                  Steroids are wonderful in helping with rehabilitation and can be used properly in aiding recovery from injury.

                  I believe they should be allowed for this use.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Hustle

                    Has bonds ever failed a drug test for PEDs? The answer is no.

                    Has Pacquiao ever failed a drug test for PEDs? The answer is no.



                    I don't care about the mlb not testing for steroids in the 90s. When they did start testing, bonds was clean on all of them. unlike Manny ramirez and Raphael palmeiro,

                    Like i said. Bonds and pac were hall of famers even before steroid accusations.
                    - - Bad form to compare bloated BALCO Barry to beloved Manny.

                    Bonds was indeed HOF quality, but never close to a record setter until he signed with BALCO.

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                      #50
                      Yes he was. But here's the thing, most if not all of them are. Boxing is a greasy sport.

                      It's impossible to argue this in words, but it's very easy to tell.

                      Floyd seems cleaner than just about everyone else, but even he is probably using some suspect stuff, but cleaner. He did have a few scandals showing he is capable of cheating. Injecting your hands with xylocaine. Would completely numb your hands. That's major cheating. you could throw with reckless abandon without care of breaking your hands cause you wouldn't feel it. Just wrap them up extra tight w gauze to protect them.

                      They all get Calf tightening issues, a big side effect. You saw Manny and Canelo having these issues. You see Canelo with the joint issues. Elbows, knees - he's not even old. You see the massive water retention. You see Marquez with full blown acne on his chest and back and he's 40 or so? You see Marquez display bone crushing power out of knowhere knocking Manny cold? right after he teamed up w balco

                      Any good pro will tell you they know tons of dudes on ****.....except them.

                      Here's the good news though, it really doesn't help like they think it does...and

                      old fighters cheated and used drugs as well

                      the 30's through the 90's fighters frequently fought coked out. In their younger years when they are fit and healthy, a coked out night can be an ATG night (Pryor vs Arguello) that was a ******* Frenzied assault. Pryor was addicted. an addict does not stop on fight night.

                      Leonard = coke head, look at his body. He was so slim cause he had no appetite but tons of energy. super strong for being that slim. His own biography just talks about his coke addiction for over a decade. He doesn't say he get's high on fight night, but of course he did lol. You think he showed up flat and abided by rules in boxing, in 1973?

                      Same with Edwin Valero, you can tell the man was coked out ON fight night.

                      Duran said King would inject him with adrenaline before fights sometimes

                      probably hundreds of stories out there that we won't ever know.



                      If you followed the 2 Tyson Holyfield fights, the story goes like this: Tysons camp in fight 1 said they heard rumors Holyfield was on gear (of course he was) Tyson loses and looks worn out. Fight 2, Tyson comes in on the scale snarling and shredded. Who knows if he trained any hard, but he looks like he did because they shot him up with some gear. Ding ding, not long after Tyson is roid raging AND biting Holyfields ear off on live TV. Thats what happens when you give Mike Tyson steroids lol. What would foreman have done?

                      Boxing had a lot of these drugs even back in the 20's and 30's, because the wealthy could get ahold of them as early as the turn of the century. They would feed any enhancers to fighters.
                      Last edited by them_apples; 03-11-2023, 10:49 PM.

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