Bert Sugar ''Willie Pep Is A Greater Fighter Than Muhammad Ali''

[Rolling Stone]

nuff said

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[JAB5239]

on Ali's resume???? Archie Moore ranks higher than both of em

46 year old Archie Moore? Lol, stop humiliating yourself already!

[Spartacus Sully]

46 year old Archie Moore? Lol, stop humiliating yourself already!

i think he was 48 actually.

born 1913 december fought ali 1962 november

while ali was almost 21

[JAB5239]

Really? Which fighter was better than Jimmy McLarnin or Tony Canzoneri? Lol, this is fun, Wish I had more beer!

i think he was 48 actually.

born 1913 december fought ali 1962 november

while ali was almost 21

He might as well of been 107. Either way way he wasn't even close to being at the top of his game or even remotely close to Canzoneri and McLarnin p4p when they fought Ross. I mean seriously, how bad of an answer was that?

[gimmeyapudpud]

Lol, another ass clown who wants me to do the work for her. So what are you telling me, that you have no idea what you're talking about and are relying on boxrec? I don't even have to expose you, you do it all on your own, joker!

Jump down from your fathers lap and take your head out of your backside gabby.You don't have to expose me because you can't expose me.You have done nothing to argue that a Max Diekmann wasn't anything more than a bum.


You have provided no argument as to how Gipsy Daniels was a top heavyweight.I don't see anywhere in the Rings Ratings where he was a top rated heavyweight.

but what does it mean when only 16 times joe louis needed 10 or more rounds to win. while 27 times it took ali more then 10 rounds to win.

perhaps joe louis took out his opponents faster because he was better?

Are you ******? What does a knockout ratio have to do when comparing the qaulity of opposition faced and beaten?

[JAB5239]

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Jump down from your fathers lap and take your head out of your backside gabby.You don't have to expose me because you can't expose me.You have done nothing to argue that a Max Diekmann wasn't anything more than a bum.


You have provided no argument as to how Gipsy Daniels was a top heavyweight.I don't see anywhere in the Rings Ratings where he was a top rated heavyweight.

You keep reaching, I'll keep laughing, boxrec cowboy!

[JAB5239]

Really? Which fighter was better than Jimmy McLarnin or Tony Canzoneri? Lol, this is fun, Wish I had more beer!

Sorry kid but you don't make the rules. You want something, you have to give something. Who on Ali's resume was better than Canzoneri and McLarnin? You opened your mouth, Im just asking you to back it up. SCUUURRRED?

Still waiting............

on Ali's resume???? Archie Moore ranks higher than both of em

Still waiting. I know you can do better than this. Can't you?

[gimmeyapudpud]

[QUOTE=JAB5239;7614291]

You keep reaching, I'll keep laughing, boxrec cowboy!

Please don't cop out gabby.You seemed so certain that I was wrong on this matter,you claim to be so knowledgable,please do tell us of these great legends that claimed victory over Schmeling.

[JAB5239]

[QUOTE=gimmeyapudpud;7614318]

Please don't cop out gabby.You seemed so certain that I was wrong on this matter,you claim to be so knowledgable,please do tell us of these great legends that claimed victory over Schmeling.

Im going to humor you on both Diekmann and Daniels, both of who he had wins over. Could it be that a 19 year old fighter with no amateur career that I know of could get beat early in his career? If so, should that really be held against him? Should a loss against a vastly more experienced fighter be held against that same fighter with no amateur career to speak of be held against a 23 year old fighter? If you say yes to either of these questions it only proves how biased you are. Grow up, do some research and beg for some green.

[Spartacus Sully]

Are you ******? What does a knockout ratio have to do when comparing the qaulity of opposition faced and beaten?

no no no its ko ratio vs ko ratio when quality of opposition is similar.