Bert Sugar ''Willie Pep Is A Greater Fighter Than Muhammad Ali''

[Rolling Stone]

So be a man and argue it. Tell me exactly why Ali was greater than the fighters I named. I can come up with reasons for and against because I know about these fighters. You've got such shriveled raisins you have to quote someone else list and don't even know why.

time and time again you have proven what an amateur you truly are......anyone can put forth an arguement for any 10 fighters to be the greatest....you can go back and forth all you want.......i respect expert opinions and read what the historians have to say, i don't give a **** if you have Dmitry Salita as you're greatest, i simply don't care....

[JAB5239]

I never said he was the Greatest....Sugar Ray Robinson is the Greatest

so Muhammad Ali was great because of his mouth??? is that right??? so it wasn't for the fact he was a 3 time heavyweight champ??? fought and defeated HOF'ers Archie Moore, Bob Foster, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Sonny Liston, Floyd Patterson, Ken Norton plus hard hitting punchers Earnie Shavers and Ron Lyle......so you mean to tell me none of that mattered????? he was only great because of his mouth???? please dont post in this section again

Let me expose you to a little bit of your ignorance. Ali and Barney Ross are pretty close p4p in my opinion. But it IS arguable that Ross should be rated higher p4p with wins over Fuller, Klick, Canzoneri, McLarnin, Jannazzo and Garcia amongst others, as well as being the first triple crown champion. I eagerly await your retort.

[Spartacus Sully]

I never said he was the Greatest....Sugar Ray Robinson is the Greatest

so Muhammad Ali was great because of his mouth??? is that right??? so it wasn't for the fact he was a 3 time heavyweight champ??? fought and defeated HOF'ers Archie Moore, Bob Foster, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Sonny Liston, Floyd Patterson, Ken Norton plus hard hitting punchers Earnie Shavers and Ron Lyle......so you mean to tell me none of that mattered????? he was only great because of his mouth???? please dont post in this section again

no he was the greatest because of his mouth not great he was great because of his record but the greatest because of his mouth.

[Spartacus Sully]

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I cant watch videos how about you actually give your own opinion? or we can just leave it as it is with me creating a case as to why dempsey is better then ali and you failing to defend ali.

is that the video where ali's talking **** on dempsey? cause that really proves anything aside from ali having a big mouth and needing to put down people of the past to prove hes the greatest.

[JAB5239]

WOW....what a shame, i have reduced you to tears......you are the one who came out with the bold statement and now you're clutching at straws......i don't need to hear your opinion cause mine is made up, i just wanted you to embaress yourself some more.....i don't respect your knowledge of the sport....i respect 'geniune' experts....you are just a troll with a keyboard

Now you're going to tell blatant lies like others can't see the post history? Lol! You said YOU were going to embarrass me. So dazzle us with your historical knowledge and stop being a sheep. I already know you got no game, Im just stringing you along for ****s and giggles!

[gimmeyapudpud]

at first i thought this guy must be a ******, but then i saw your from Philidelphia and you have clear bias towards Ali because he whooped Phillie's own Smokin Joe

Nope.Dunce is a fan of black fighters who duck and avoid fighters of their own race.This is why he rates Ray Robinson and Joe Louis so highly.

I think people just assume because of his resume. While it is the best ever at heavy (my opinion) he had a lot of close fights too.

Legacies are based upon resume's,gabby.Nobody cares how skilled a fighter may or may not have been if they don't have a credibile resume.


Joe Louis apologists can never argue that their hero has a greater resume than Ali,so they will argue what a perfect fighter Joe Louis was.How great his jab was,how great his hook was.How he was the greatest puncher,with such flawless technique..............while completely ignoring the fact that Louis's entire resume is filled with bums,cans and fighters lacking a pulse.



Joe Louis's resume is shocking when you think about it.

[Rolling Stone]

HHAHAHAHHA......what did i just say, you can go back and forth with this all you want, it is all objective....but you're having a hard time trying to grasp this information....i can easily make my case,

'Muhammad Ali's level of competition is far superior to that of the Great ***ish fighter, Barney Ross.....his defeats over Joe Frazier (twice), Sonny Liston (twice), ken Norton (twice), George Foreman, Bob Foster, Archie Moore and Floyd Patterson etc rank him higher IMO....along with being the first ever 3 time heavyweight Champ Ali possessed physical capabilities light years ahead of his time etc etc etc

[JAB5239]

Legacies are based upon resume's,gabby.Nobody cares how skilled a fighter may or may not have been if they don't have a credibile resume.


Joe Louis apologists can never argue that their hero has a greater resume than Ali,so they will argue what a perfect fighter Joe Louis was.How great his jab was,how great his hook was.How he was the greatest puncher,with such flawless technique..............while completely ignoring the fact that Louis's entire resume is filled with bums,cans and fighters lacking a pulse.



Joe Louis's resume is shocking when you think about it.

(ahem) don't you have some research you should be doing on Schmelings opponents?

[Rolling Stone]

I cant watch videos how about you actually give your own opinion? or we can just leave it as it is with me creating a case as to why dempsey is better then ali and you failing to defend ali.

is that the video where ali's talking **** on dempsey? cause that really proves anything aside from ali having a big mouth and needing to put down people of the past to prove hes the greatest.

HAHHAHAHHA....talking ****??? is that the only line you can come up with???? Muhammad Ali was critically analysing Jack Dempsey's pathetic Brawling style and was describing how a pure boxer would dance circles around his ass

[JAB5239]

HHAHAHAHHA......what did i just say, you can go back and forth with this all you want, it is all objective....but you're having a hard time trying to grasp this information....i can easily make my case,

'Muhammad Ali's level of competition is far superior to that of the Great ***ish fighter, Barney Ross.....his defeats over Joe Frazier (twice), Sonny Liston (twice), ken Norton (twice), George Foreman, Bob Foster, Archie Moore and Floyd Patterson etc rank him higher IMO....along with being the first ever 3 time heavyweight Champ Ali possessed physical capabilities light years ahead of his time etc etc etc

Really? Which fighter was better than Jimmy McLarnin or Tony Canzoneri? Lol, this is fun, Wish I had more beer!