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Vitali Klitchko's 5 Best Wins?
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Originally posted by Dr Z View Post
NOPE! Stopi posting mis information, and lose you hating ways...
Proof:
https://www.boxingscene.com/articles...rs-pt-2-vitali- 04/01/2000 - RTD by 9 Chris Byrd (#10 at Heavyweight)
- 06/21/2003 - TKO by 6 Lennox Lewis (Champion at Heavyweight)
- 04/24/2004 - TKO8 Corrie Sanders (#3 at Heavyweight)
- 12/11/2004 - TKO8 Danny Williams (#9 at Heavyweight)
- 10/11/2008 - RTD8 Sam Peter (#2 at Heavyweight)
- 03/21/2009 - TKO9 Juan Carlos Gomez (#9 at Heavyweight)
- 09/26/2009 - RTD10 Chris Arreola (#6 at Heavyweight)
- 12/12/2009 - UD12 Kevin Johnson (#10 at Heavyweight)
- 09/10/2011 - TKO10 Tomasz Adamek (#2 at Heavyweight)
"The ranking provided for each foe represents the most recent in Ring’s print edition prior to Klitschko facing them"
See, now that's the information we need. The month by month rankings. Not the damn Ring Annual Rankings. They don't tell the whole story.
Great post.
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Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post
"The ranking provided for each foe represents the most recent in Ring’s print edition prior to Klitschko facing them"
See, now that's the information we need. The month by month rankings. Not the damn Ring Annual Rankings. They don't tell the whole story.
Great post.
This link proves he wasn't! It also proves that Z's claim that Vitali was 8-2 against Ring ranked opponents is wrong,its actually7-2
BTW. Further down it also says this.
Competition Not Faced
As always, this section is concerned with what did not occur more than why it did not.
As was the case with Wladimir, let’s consider what might have been added to Vitali’s ledger from the point he entered serious contention forward. That would extend from around the time of the Hide fight to the end of his career. Across that span, several men won other major heavyweight belts whom Klitschko didn’t face, the most notable being his brother.
No points can be lost for that.
The other men who held major titles during Vitali’s relevant active years were:- Evander Holyfield (WBA)
- John Ruiz (WBA)
- Hasim Rahman (World Champion)
- Roy Jones (WBA)
- Nicolay Valuev (WBA)
- Sergei Liakhovich (WBO)
- Oleg Maskaev (WBC)
- Ruslan Chagaev (WBA)
- Sultan Ibragimov (WBO)
- David Haye (WBA)
We can also wonder about matches with some of the same contenders Wladimir missed like David Tua and James Toney. The years between Byrd and Lewis could have been more challenging but Vitali played to get a mandatory and the efforts bore fruit. Several of the men who won titles across the span of Vitali’s career, like Maskaev and Liakhovich, did so while he was retired the first time. They were, though, contenders before and after their reigns. Haye, Chagaev, and later Alexander Povetkin are all notable names in the era that also could have added depth to Vitali’s mark. The Haye fight came closest to occurring but ultimately didn’t come to pass."
Which was my point he cherry picked. In11 winning title defences only 6 were against Ring ranked opponents.Last edited by Bronson66; Yesterday, 05:58 PM.
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Originally posted by Bronson66 View PostI accept I was wrong about Kevin Johnson and Williams,but I would like to point out Z has steadfastly claimed Solis was Ring ranked when he fought Vitali,even refusing to accept Cliff Rold's evidence that he wasn't.
This link proves he wasn't! It also proves that Z's claim that Vitali was 8-2 against Ring ranked opponents is wrong,its actually7-2
BTW. Further down it also says this.
Competition Not Faced
As always, this section is concerned with what did not occur more than why it did not.
As was the case with Wladimir, let’s consider what might have been added to Vitali’s ledger from the point he entered serious contention forward. That would extend from around the time of the Hide fight to the end of his career. Across that span, several men won other major heavyweight belts whom Klitschko didn’t face, the most notable being his brother.
No points can be lost for that.
The other men who held major titles during Vitali’s relevant active years were:- Evander Holyfield (WBA)
- John Ruiz (WBA)
- Hasim Rahman (World Champion)
- Roy Jones (WBA)
- Nicolay Valuev (WBA)
- Sergei Liakhovich (WBO)
- Oleg Maskaev (WBC)
- Ruslan Chagaev (WBA)
- Sultan Ibragimov (WBO)
- David Haye (WBA)
We can also wonder about matches with some of the same contenders Wladimir missed like David Tua and James Toney. The years between Byrd and Lewis could have been more challenging but Vitali played to get a mandatory and the efforts bore fruit. Several of the men who won titles across the span of Vitali’s career, like Maskaev and Liakhovich, did so while he was retired the first time. They were, though, contenders before and after their reigns. Haye, Chagaev, and later Alexander Povetkin are all notable names in the era that also could have added depth to Vitali’s mark. The Haye fight came closest to occurring but ultimately didn’t come to pass."
Which was my point he cherry picked. In11 winning title defences only 6 were against Ring ranked opponents.Dr Z likes this.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
I think Solis was in the Top 10 of The Ring at that time because I had the magazine and checked it years back during a discussion identical to this one.
if the link is incorrect on this ,what else is wrong in it ?Last edited by Bronson66; Today, 05:03 AM.
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Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post
According to the information he himself provided he wasn't.
if the link is incorrect on this ,what else is it wrong on?
But I’m about 90% sure I have the magazine for that month and Solis was in the Top 10.
My memory does fail me these days but I’m quite sure.
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