Is Mayweather A Divisional Goat?

[Willie Pep 229]

Right but then you’re now just making it a different sport to what it is.

If that’s how you want to the sport to be then you’re out of luck because I’m afraid it’s not. So, you’re better off finding another one that’s mote suitable.

I heard you!

I won't won't go silently into the night. I will howl about it. I have loved it too long.

[them_apples]

You admitted that you took TRT, dumbass. You pin TRT every week, that’s how you take a TRT course.

How could you possibly think you could try and criticise anyone for doing any kind of pinning when you admitted to doing it yourself???

Retard.

Where did I say I am on TRT? Where did I say I pin every week???

You changed what you said in the previous post

why are you lying

trt and roids are for losers, puffy, water retention, red in the face all that jazz

[Coverdale]

Then he really didn't win. He just looked better sparring. When a fighter wins it's obvious; no such thing as winning a 'squeaker' in prize fighting. That only exists in HBO style professional boxing.

Harold "I'm in the tank for the house corner" Lederman and three hand-picked judges.

There's definitely something to this and is particularly acute with US fighters who carry most of the economic clout. I remember Ring magazine coming out with a particularly critical piece about Lederman's scoring of the Alexander - Matthysse fight. He was scoring rounds to Alexander despite him being out landed when rarely is this justifiable. Alexander appeared to be enjoying that 'defensive' US fighter bias which remains prevalent even now.

I think similar can be said of Mayweather. Even when it looked as if he was doing nothing or very little, the opposite was believed to be true because, hey, it's Mayweather the Master Boxer, right? I will concede that, watching Mayweather - Castillo yesterday, there is something aesthetically appealing (for a while) about watching Mayweather's athletic movement, it's very fluid. But is it boxing?

[Coverdale]

I think it's also noteworthy that Castillo 1 was the only Mayweather fight Drakulich refereed. Compared with Bayless (7), Cortez (4) and Weeks (3).

[QueensburyRules]

- - l'l floydy got punched 111x vs McG in his boxing debut, so the suits that run the boxing racket got nervous and pulled the plug on McG.

Stinkers will never make great boxers, but fans who go sniffing into men's restroom will always have big sniff over l'l floydy...

[Coverdale]

IronDanHamza - got my decaf coffee ready and Mayweather - Maidana locked and loaded...

[Coverdale]

Pretty entertaining fight, if you ask me

If you can get passed all the fouling.

• Agree, it was entertaining.
• I scored it 8-4 Maidana. First five rounds to Maidana, next four to Floyd, last three to Maidana. I probably got the 10th wrong on reflection but decided to stick with it.
• Floyd began trying to referee his own fight from round four on after the clash of heads which clearly made him very uncomfortable.
• Floyd did some excessive holding in rounds 4, 11 and 12. He had begun to look his age in this fight, great and dedicated as he was.
• I hate that jump back to the ropes/shoulder roll thing Floyd does. What purpose did it really serve?

[Mr Mitts]

Neither Pac or May were in their primes. But since MW has highly defensive style and Pacquiao goes to war every time, the benefit of delay was all MW's, from a wear and tear perspective. No way Pacquiao was helped by delay.

In short it may have been a great fight 5 or 6 years before it happened. But it was the worst 'fight of the century' so far, by far.

[Coverdale]

Neither Pac or May were in their primes. But since MW has highly defensive style and Pacquiao goes to war every time, the benefit of delay was all MW's, from a wear and tear perspective. No way Pacquiao was helped by delay.

In short it may have been a great fight 5 or 6 years before it happened. But it was the worst 'fight of the century' so far, by far.

What occurred was a super-glorified sparring match as billeau2 broke down perfectly here:

Here is my take: In boxing fights become truth machines... P o r n stars often speak of learning how to "perform" in front of an audience, but a fight is no mere performance, no mere mechanical act... Fights tell us about the fighters and that which esteems a great champion can just as quickly diminish him. Just ask Roberto Duran when he fought Leonard.

We can fault both men, or neither man, for not meeting until after the best of their work had been done, but alas when a fight was agreed upon, it became a chance for redeeming this unfortunate historical fact. It also became a chance to see if either man was willing to risk bragging rights to truly make an effort and to risk a loss. Or? was the fight simply a money grab? a glorified sparring match that would simply let each great fighter leave the ring legacy in tact? Legacy is a strange thing though. When you turn on that truth machine in the boxing ring, can it truly be said to be left intact, if nothing was ventured, nothing was gained?

The fight between these two was nothing. Neither man was willing to risk enough to win. The decision could have gone either way, nobody showed any ability to effect the other in the ring. It was a big rip off that showed how legacy is not truly respected, and a way to allow both men the right to say they had fought.

You can fool boxing fans with alphabet soup... even getting ignorant fans to assert how the lineal is not needed. But there are still real fans that understand what a champion is, and how the plural case, in each weight class does not apply to the "champion" because there is no such thing as "champions." Mayweather versus Pac was in fact a lineal type affair, it was supposed to be "the man who beats the best is the best." What we got was an exhibition in how to use double talk and judges to avoid such a confrontation.

[Mr Mitts]

What occurred was a super-glorified sparring match as billeau2 broke down perfectly here:

Yeah, Bilbo was one of the better posters. I don't know how the admin even knew that a few people died, like Zaroku.