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  • #41
    Usyk is Top 10, for sure.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

      I will stick with Muay thai, sometimes you couldn't fathom nor handle. But what does the rest of these lies and rubbish have to do with you claiming Wlad, Vits and Usyk top 10 heavyweights all time?



      Most MuayThai boxers in Thailand retire in their mid twenties​. And most compete between 108-126 lbs. By the way VK was both an amateur and professional champion kick boxer. I thought you might give that some credit.​

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Dr Z View Post




        Most MuayThai boxers in Thailand retire in their mid twenties​. And most compete between 108-126 lbs. By the way VK was both an amateur and professional champion kick boxer. I thought you might give that some credit.​
        Some of the notable muay thai fighters I've trained with that are well passed their mid twenties and fight at a higher weight than 126. Superbon, Nong-O and Petchtanong Petchfergus.

        I've watched Vits Kickbox. It's more conducive to points karate. When you start incorporating leg kicks, elbows and knees that where the real pain begins. Not taking away from him. But what he did doesnt compare to Muay thai. It's like flag football compared to the NFL.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

          Some of the notable muay thai fighters I've trained with that are well passed their mid twenties and fight at a higher weight than 126. Superbon, Nong-O and Petchtanong Petchfergus.

          I've watched Vits Kickbox. It's more conducive to points karate. When you start incorporating leg kicks, elbows and knees that where the real pain begins. Not taking away from him. But what he did doesnt compare to Muay thai. It's like flag football compared to the NFL.
          I've watched a bit of Muy Thai in Thailand, some of those guys are into their 30's, up to welterweight,and real tough cookies.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

            - - Vit came to the US to talk fights wif Vander, Tyson, and Bowe who refused to fight him.

            Lewie only did so because Vit WBC Mandatory had won 3 US civil suits vs Lewie, so Lewie thought he could short change Vit by giving him only 2 weeks notice.

            Stick to Muy Thai where U belong...
            Uncorroborated BS.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

              Some of the notable muay thai fighters I've trained with that are well passed their mid twenties and fight at a higher weight than 126. Superbon, Nong-O and Petchtanong Petchfergus.

              I've watched Vits Kickbox. It's more conducive to points karate. When you start incorporating leg kicks, elbows and knees that where the real pain begins. Not taking away from him. But what he did doesnt compare to Muay thai. It's like flag football compared to the NFL.



              Okay, you have a point. If I were an MMA fan I could say that Muay Thai is like girls flag football compared to MMA as it uses the entire body. Personally I think MMA has too many chokes and joint bars in it.


              Besides, Long Duck Dong would clearly beat the guys you mentioned in the movies. He was very good at the drunken master style. But Dong fought dirty in his fight vs. Jake Ryan. He later apologized and there was no bad vibe between them.​

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Dr Z View Post




                Okay, you have a point. If I were an MMA fan I could say that Muay Thai is like girls flag football compared to MMA as it uses the entire body. Personally I think MMA has too many chokes and joint bars in it.


                Besides, Long Duck Dong would clearly beat the guys you mentioned in the movies. He was very good at the drunken master style. But Dong fought dirty in his fight vs. Jake Ryan. He later apologized and there was no bad vibe between them.​
                Actually Muay thai is the striking foundation of MMA.
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                • #48
                  Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                  Actually Muay thai is the striking foundation of MMA.
                  Well Long Duck Dong and his druken master style would find the holes in Muay Thai defenses.

                  The Muay Thai stance leaves the groin, solar plexus, and ribs exposed to attack along with other areas. A hook punch to the jaw can easily penetrate the Muay Thai fighter's defenses. As such they would be no match for him. "Nuff said.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Dr Z View Post

                    Well Long Duck Dong and his druken master style would find the holes in Muay Thai defenses.

                    The Muay Thai stance leaves the groin, solar plexus, and ribs exposed to attack along with other areas. A hook punch to the jaw can easily penetrate the Muay Thai fighter's defenses. As such they would be no match for him. "Nuff said.
                    You don't see much of a traditional muay thai stance anymore. It more of a boxers stance just a little more squared. But ye, drunken master always wins.
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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post

                      Uncorroborated BS.
                      - - Corrobated with being there in my era where I was most active in watching the fights and following the in between maneuverings of the dirtiest of sports.

                      Stick to U French snails that U excel at...

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