Usky is knocking in the door being a top 8 all time heavyweight.

[QueensburyRules]

Your statement that Ukraine is the centre of the Universe for heavyweight boxing is is just blatant nonsense,and even you must know it. They are fighting away from home because Boxing is dead in the Ukraine and always has been,so dead Lomachenko never fought there as a pro!
My dinner was a salad of eggs,fish tuna and sardines,tomato, onions,lettuce,and mussels.
I'm drinking the tea now ,you have it after the meal not before ,or with.

What are you having ,grits and yesterday's meat loaf? lol

- - Watching U fill U shorts and weeping over Ukraine dominance...priceless...!!!

[JAB5239]

That is due to the fan base which supports the fighters. For every Ukraine fan that pays $ to see a fighter, there are 10 UK fans. Ukraine has dominated in champions produced, not active fighters.

What does fan basehave to do with number of champions? Queenie made a ****** statement that was untrue. It's easily provable.

[Dr Z]

What does fan basehave to do with number of champions? Queenie made a ****** statement that was untrue. It's easily provable.

Not a thing. I was talking about who easy to go pro in the UK and they have a lot of fans. By the way where do you rate Usyk? Top what ( insert a number ) of all time?

[JAB5239]

Not a thing. I was talking about who easy to go pro in the UK and they have a lot of fans. By the way where do you rate Usyk? Top what ( insert a number ) of all time?

I'll reserve judgment for a more appropriate time. He is working he way up, no doubt about that. Let's see what Dubois does the rest of his career, AJ, Fury. Do we consider the AJ wins is less because he had been stopped before to an average Ruiz? Was Fury shot from the Wilder fights? Both were still highly ranked so I don't think either of those scenarios hurts him. Like I said, it depends on what the rest of his comp goes on the accompliish.

[Dr Z]

I'll reserve judgment for a more appropriate time. He is working he way up, no doubt about that. Let's see what Dubois does the rest of his career, AJ, Fury. Do we consider the AJ wins is less because he had been stopped before to an average Ruiz? Was Fury shot from the Wilder fights? Both were still highly ranked so I don't think either of those scenarios hurts him. Like I said, it depends on what the rest of his comp goes on the accompliish.

Usyk has beaten the best of his era and he's near 39 years old. His resume can get a bit better but it capped due to age.

Yes-- AJ's stock took a hit from Ruiz, BUT he avenged the loss and did some fine work before and after.

Fury was not shot from Wilder. So we agree.