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  • #41
    Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post

    I'd like to know who is a racist?

    Who is a race baiter?,

    Who got his posts removed?


    Will you answer my questions please?

    When you make accusations its customary to put names to those accused.

    Will you now do that? Second time of asking.
    When are you going to answer these questions?
    Third time of asking?

    I'm not letting this go.
    Last edited by Bronson66; 07-10-2025, 04:28 PM.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post

      When are you going to answer these questions?
      Third time of asking?

      I'm not letting this go.
      Obviously not!
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      • #43
        Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post
        Had he fought anyone worthy of a title shot in1922?

        Yes he fought and beat
        Langford
        Norfolk
        Clark x2
        F Johnson

        Lets look at his noted wins during Dempsey's reign.
        1919
        Langford
        Clark
        Langford
        Jeannette

        1920
        Tate x2
        Clark
        Langford
        Fulton
        Clark

        1921
        Tate x3
        Clark
        Smith

        1922
        Langford
        Norfolk
        Clark x2
        Jackson

        1923
        H Smith
        Thompson

        1924
        Madden
        Firpo
        Weinert
        F Johnson
        Name a title challenger Dempsey fought between1919 and 1924 who had a better list of scalps?
        Langford was blind and washed up in ‘22. Norfolk was six inches shorter and outweighed by 35 pounds. Clark was outweighed by 30 pounds and already had 37 losses and 22 draws, lol, you would laugh at any fighter since who beat a man with 37 losses. His fight with Johnson was regarded as a “wearisome joke” by journalists. The NYT said Wills chances of dethroning Dempsey took a downward trend in the opinion of the majority of those who witnessed the exhibition with Johnson.”

        Stop embarrassing yourself. At this point I should really show mercy here and stop the bleeding, either ignore you or continue to humiliate you.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post

          I'd like to know who is a racist?

          Who is a race baiter?,

          Who got his posts removed?


          Will you answer my questions please?

          When you make accusations its customary to put names to those accused.

          Will you now do that? Second time of asking.
          Biledriver is a racist with several alts who had his racist posts removed, your girl travesty is also a known racist and hater of Dempsey. He liked a lot of Biles racist comments. It’s a pattern of behavior that is well documented. He is on ignore for good reason. Gave him many chances to be civil but he can’t help who he is. Always seeking allies vis PMs and race baiting. He thrives on negativity and beefing with countless posters.

          I don’t care how many times you ask. I have a life outside of this forum, I’ll get to your posts when I get to them.
          Last edited by GhostofDempsey; 07-10-2025, 10:16 PM.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post

            Biledriver is a racist with several alts who had his racist posts removed, your girl travesty is also a known racist and hater of Dempsey. He liked a lot of Biles racist comments. It’s a pattern of behavior that is well documented. He is on ignore for good reason. Gave him many chances to be civil but he can’t help who he is. Always seeking allies vis PMs and race baiting. He thrives on negativity and beefing with countless posters.

            I don’t care how many times you ask. I have a life outside of this forum, I’ll get to your posts when I get to them.
            I haven't read racist posts from either. Well documented? By whom?

            You currently have 3 posters disagreeing with you ,it seems to me maybe you are the one that has beefs?

            Be civil?

            You attacked my very first post here, and you've done so consistently since,and thrown in a few personal insults along the way,I'm not complaining, you have the right to disagree with me, but be consistent and don't pretend you are some innocent victim.

            On the subject at hand, I'm a huge Dempsey fan a collection of his fights were the first I ever bought,but I'm even handed on the subject of him and Wills, and believe he must take some of the blame for the fight not happening.

            Travestyny,like me, has said he thinks Dempsey would have beaten Wills too, so he isnt saying this out of hatred, but that isn't the issue ,and no matter how much you disparage his posts, he invariably posts links to support his opinions
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            • #46
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

              - - What the Governor and Mayor had to say back in their day...duh...

              Anyway, to get Dempsey back into the ring, Tex offered Dempsey a warm up fight to shake off the rust and offered Wills a fight vs Tunney in one of boxing earliest eliminator tourneys, but Wills turned him down to promptly get beat up by Sharkey and then DQed for backhanding the whole fight after repeated ref warnings, so Sharkey got the Dempsey warmup.

              That first Tunney fight had Dempsey getting deaththreats such that his camp looked more like an arsenal of a Marine platoon. Hollywood Gossip Columnist Luella Parsons was good friends with Estelle dropped by and was appalled. Dempsey looked terrible, and worse while traveling to the ring. He had lumps under his armpits and had to be carried upright to his dressing room after vomiting several times on the way. He needed help undressing and putting on his ring garb.

              As it turned out, one of Dempsey's new hires Mike Trent didn't show the day of the fight and was shown making two calls to Chicago where a mobster Frankie Pope put down $500K on Tunney. Dempsey mentions his Olive Oil he used for digestion without directly saying he was drugged because he didn't want Tunney to be slandered for being a part of their racket.

              Jack never mentioned any of this in the Roger Khan book. Sounds like propaganda or fake news.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Bennyleonard99 View Post

                Jack never mentioned any of this in the Roger Khan book. Sounds like propaganda or fake news.
                - - Sound more like U don't know shyte from shinola as is usual, ie Dempsey was long gone having passed in 1983.

                Kahn’s other sports books: 2004’s “October Men: Reggie Jackson, George Steinbrenner, Billy Martin, and the Yankees’ Miraculous Finish in 1978,” 1986’s “Joe and Marilyn: A Memory of Love,” and 1999’s “A Flame of Pure Fire: Jack Dempsey and the Roaring ‘20s.”

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                  - - Sound more like U don't know shyte from shinola as is usual, ie Dempsey was long gone having passed in 1983.

                  Kahn’s other sports books: 2004’s “October Men: Reggie Jackson, George Steinbrenner, Billy Martin, and the Yankees’ Miraculous Finish in 1978,” 1986’s “Joe and Marilyn: A Memory of Love,” and 1999’s “A Flame of Pure Fire: Jack Dempsey and the Roaring ‘20s.”
                  Dempsey and Kahn were friends,I think it quite possible Kahn was privy to lots of inside stuff.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post

                    Dempsey and Kahn were friends,I think it quite possible Kahn was privy to lots of inside stuff.
                    Yes Roger Kahn actually interviewed him personally for that awesome book.
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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Bennyleonard99 View Post

                      Yes Roger Kahn actually interviewed him personally for that awesome book.
                      - - Interviewed him in the early 70s as something close to a Cub Reporter where he was instructed on the questions to ask. That's 20 years later.

                      The Dempsey autobio was put together by his beautiful daughter in law who took after her beautiful mother, Jack's last and best marriage. Since Jack is very humble about his few shortcomings and shares the pain of having little $$$ for most of his career, that's the magnus opus of all Dempsey writings.

                      Need to be humble about your shortcomings, but you ain't smart enough...

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