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  • #41
    Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post

    The public wanted it. In a 1922 poll of some 500 newspapers nationwide, Harry

    Wills was selected as the the boxer that people most wanted to see heavyweight

    champ Jack Dempsey fight. He got 131,073 votes; second place was 6,000. The

    problem was, Dempsey had drawn the “color line” in 1919 after winning the title,

    citing deadly riots after the Jack Johnson – James J. Jeffries fight in 1910.



    In 1925, the New York State Athletic Commission gave Dempsey an ultimatum:

    fight Wills, or find another state to fight in. He chose the latter. Another match

    fell through in 1926. When Dempsey lost to Gene Tunney that year, and Wills,

    then 37, lost as well, talks of the match ended, as did Wills’ shot at the title
    Thanks for another copy and paste lecture. Wills hadn’t fought anyone worthy of a title shot in ‘22. Dempsey himself didn’t draw the color line. He was under contract to Kearns and Rickard. Newspaper polls and fans don’t dictate opponents, otherwise Johnson would have given title shots to Langford, Jeannette and McVey. They all insisted he didn’t, despite what your incorrect sources claim. Mayweather once started a poll for who he should fight next; Maidana or Khan…fans overwhelmingly chose Khan yet he went with Maidana who was robbed in their first fight.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post

      Thanks for another copy and paste lecture. Wills hadn’t fought anyone worthy of a title shot in ‘22. Dempsey himself didn’t draw the color line. He was under contract to Kearns and Rickard. Newspaper polls and fans don’t dictate opponents, otherwise Johnson would have given title shots to Langford, Jeannette and McVey. They all insisted he didn’t, despite what your incorrect sources claim. Mayweather once started a poll for who he should fight next; Maidana or Khan…fans overwhelmingly chose Khan yet he went with Maidana who was robbed in their first fight.
      Had he fought anyone worthy of a title shot in1922?

      Yes he fought and beat
      Langford
      Norfolk
      Clark x2
      F Johnson

      Lets look at his noted wins during Dempsey's reign.
      1919
      Langford
      Clark
      Langford
      Jeannette

      1920
      Tate x2
      Clark
      Langford
      Fulton
      Clark

      1921
      Tate x3
      Clark
      Smith

      1922
      Langford
      Norfolk
      Clark x2
      Jackson

      1923
      H Smith
      Thompson

      1924
      Madden
      Firpo
      Weinert
      F Johnson
      Name a title challenger Dempsey fought between1919 and 1924 who had a better list of scalps?
      Last edited by Bronson66; 07-10-2025, 01:11 PM.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by ghostofdempsey View Post

        relax, i’m not referring to you mr. Paranoid. It’s your little sister on here who knows exactly who she is. A race obsessed snake who slithers out of her hole anytime there is a chance to bash dempsey or defend johnson/wills/mayweather unconditionally.
        I'd like to know who is a racist?

        Who is a race baiter?,

        Who got his posts removed?


        Will you answer my questions please?

        When you make accusations its customary to put names to those accused.

        Will you now do that? Second time of asking.
        Last edited by Bronson66; 07-10-2025, 01:19 PM.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post

          Relax, I’m not referring to you Mr. Paranoid. It’s your little sister on here who knows exactly who she is. A race obsessed snake who slithers out of her hole anytime there is a chance to bash Dempsey or defend Johnson/Wills/Mayweather unconditionally.
          I only defend the truth.

          You on the other hand are an outright liar and hypocrite. Everyone knows this about you by now.
          Last edited by travestyny; 07-10-2025, 01:32 PM.
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          • #45
            LMAO. More hypocrisy from this guy. Was just claiming posters ignore or dismiss his sources...

            Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
            You’re incapable of humility or admitting when you’re wrong...... Ignoring or dismissing other’s sources


            And here he is dismissing other's sources...

            Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
            despite what your incorrect sources claim..

            Complete joke of a poster

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post

              I'd like to know who is a racist?

              Who is a race baiter?,

              Who got his posts removed?


              Will you answer my questions please?

              When you make accusations its customary to put names to those accused.

              Will you now do that? Second time of asking.
              When are you going to answer these questions?
              Third time of asking?

              I'm not letting this go.
              Last edited by Bronson66; 07-10-2025, 04:28 PM.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post

                When are you going to answer these questions?
                Third time of asking?

                I'm not letting this go.
                Obviously not!
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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post
                  Had he fought anyone worthy of a title shot in1922?

                  Yes he fought and beat
                  Langford
                  Norfolk
                  Clark x2
                  F Johnson

                  Lets look at his noted wins during Dempsey's reign.
                  1919
                  Langford
                  Clark
                  Langford
                  Jeannette

                  1920
                  Tate x2
                  Clark
                  Langford
                  Fulton
                  Clark

                  1921
                  Tate x3
                  Clark
                  Smith

                  1922
                  Langford
                  Norfolk
                  Clark x2
                  Jackson

                  1923
                  H Smith
                  Thompson

                  1924
                  Madden
                  Firpo
                  Weinert
                  F Johnson
                  Name a title challenger Dempsey fought between1919 and 1924 who had a better list of scalps?
                  Langford was blind and washed up in ‘22. Norfolk was six inches shorter and outweighed by 35 pounds. Clark was outweighed by 30 pounds and already had 37 losses and 22 draws, lol, you would laugh at any fighter since who beat a man with 37 losses. His fight with Johnson was regarded as a “wearisome joke” by journalists. The NYT said Wills chances of dethroning Dempsey took a downward trend in the opinion of the majority of those who witnessed the exhibition with Johnson.”

                  Stop embarrassing yourself. At this point I should really show mercy here and stop the bleeding, either ignore you or continue to humiliate you.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post

                    I'd like to know who is a racist?

                    Who is a race baiter?,

                    Who got his posts removed?


                    Will you answer my questions please?

                    When you make accusations its customary to put names to those accused.

                    Will you now do that? Second time of asking.
                    Biledriver is a racist with several alts who had his racist posts removed, your girl travesty is also a known racist and hater of Dempsey. He liked a lot of Biles racist comments. It’s a pattern of behavior that is well documented. He is on ignore for good reason. Gave him many chances to be civil but he can’t help who he is. Always seeking allies vis PMs and race baiting. He thrives on negativity and beefing with countless posters.

                    I don’t care how many times you ask. I have a life outside of this forum, I’ll get to your posts when I get to them.
                    Last edited by GhostofDempsey; 07-10-2025, 10:16 PM.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post

                      Biledriver is a racist with several alts who had his racist posts removed, your girl travesty is also a known racist and hater of Dempsey. He liked a lot of Biles racist comments. It’s a pattern of behavior that is well documented. He is on ignore for good reason. Gave him many chances to be civil but he can’t help who he is. Always seeking allies vis PMs and race baiting. He thrives on negativity and beefing with countless posters.

                      I don’t care how many times you ask. I have a life outside of this forum, I’ll get to your posts when I get to them.
                      Complete BS. I don't go reaching out to anyone via PM. This is your paranoia because you know every time you've lied here I've called you out on it to the point you were so embarrassed that you'd rather talk about me from behind your ignore function than face me.

                      But you can continue lying. I'll be around to tell the truth right after

                      Never been racist. Don't like racists no matter what race they are. I certainly don't hate Dempsey, but I also don't like the way some of you fan boys blatantly lie about situations he was involved in.

                      Also, it's hysterical that you would even accuse anyone of being a racist when your nickname amongst more than a few posters is GhostofKlansmen. Projecting much?



                      The truth of the matter is that I give the same energy I receive. Apples and I disagree majorly about Mayweather, be we haven't gotten into a flame war over it. I've tried to keep it above board with you, but you always go below the belt with various bs about the posters, not the facts. The same thing you've been doing with Bronson when he was just giving you facts and you started going off about all this extracurricular shlt about him being banned etc. You don't fool anyone.
                      Last edited by travestyny; 07-11-2025, 07:13 AM.

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