Jack Dempsey Auto Bio

[Bronson66]

Biledriver is a racist with several alts who had his racist posts removed, your girl travesty is also a known racist and hater of Dempsey. He liked a lot of Biles racist comments. It’s a pattern of behavior that is well documented. He is on ignore for good reason. Gave him many chances to be civil but he can’t help who he is. Always seeking allies vis PMs and race baiting. He thrives on negativity and beefing with countless posters.

I don’t care how many times you ask. I have a life outside of this forum, I’ll get to your posts when I get to them.

I haven't read racist posts from either. Well documented? By whom?

You currently have 3 posters disagreeing with you ,it seems to me maybe you are the one that has beefs?

Be civil?

You attacked my very first post here, and you've done so consistently since,and thrown in a few personal insults along the way,I'm not complaining, you have the right to disagree with me, but be consistent and don't pretend you are some innocent victim.

On the subject at hand, I'm a huge Dempsey fan a collection of his fights were the first I ever bought,but I'm even handed on the subject of him and Wills, and believe he must take some of the blame for the fight not happening.

Travestyny,like me, has said he thinks Dempsey would have beaten Wills too, so he isnt saying this out of hatred, but that isn't the issue ,and no matter how much you disparage his posts, he invariably posts links to support his opinions

[travestyny]

Langford was blind and washed up in ‘22. Norfolk was six inches shorter and outweighed by 35 pounds. Clark was outweighed by 30 pounds and already had 37 losses and 22 draws, lol, you would laugh at any fighter since who beat a man with 37 losses. His fight with Johnson was regarded as a “wearisome joke” by journalists. The NYT said Wills chances of dethroning Dempsey took a downward trend in the opinion of the majority of those who witnessed the exhibition with Johnson.”

Stop embarrassing yourself. At this point I should really show mercy here and stop the bleeding, either ignore you or continue to humiliate you.

You're only humiliating yourself.
Here is Kearns saying Wills is the logical challenger himself, and that Dempsey wants one fight before facing Wills. He'd rather go right into a fight with Willard, Firpo, Greb etc. to warm up for Wills. If Wills wasn't worthy, why need a fight before taking him on? Hmmmm....

Richmond Planet (Richmond, Va.). 1923-02-03 [p 2]

Kearns himself admitting that the Public wants to see Dempsey vs. Wills
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Kearns saying Dempsey needs a fight with someone like Willard, Firpo, or Greb before facing Wills....

[travestyny]

Be civil?

You attacked my very first post here, and you've done so consistently since,and thrown in a few personal insults along the way,I'm not complaining, you have the right to disagree with me, but be consistent and don't pretend you are some innocent victim.

Exactly this. This guy is the King of projection and hypocrisy. Blames everyone for exactly what he does.

[Bennyleonard99]

- - What the Governor and Mayor had to say back in their day...duh...

Anyway, to get Dempsey back into the ring, Tex offered Dempsey a warm up fight to shake off the rust and offered Wills a fight vs Tunney in one of boxing earliest eliminator tourneys, but Wills turned him down to promptly get beat up by Sharkey and then DQed for backhanding the whole fight after repeated ref warnings, so Sharkey got the Dempsey warmup.

That first Tunney fight had Dempsey getting deaththreats such that his camp looked more like an arsenal of a Marine platoon. Hollywood Gossip Columnist Luella Parsons was good friends with Estelle dropped by and was appalled. Dempsey looked terrible, and worse while traveling to the ring. He had lumps under his armpits and had to be carried upright to his dressing room after vomiting several times on the way. He needed help undressing and putting on his ring garb.

As it turned out, one of Dempsey's new hires Mike Trent didn't show the day of the fight and was shown making two calls to Chicago where a mobster Frankie Pope put down $500K on Tunney. Dempsey mentions his Olive Oil he used for digestion without directly saying he was drugged because he didn't want Tunney to be slandered for being a part of their racket.

Jack never mentioned any of this in the Roger Khan book. Sounds like propaganda or fake news.

[QueensburyRules]

Jack never mentioned any of this in the Roger Khan book. Sounds like propaganda or fake news.

- - Sound more like U don't know shyte from shinola as is usual, ie Dempsey was long gone having passed in 1983.

Kahn’s other sports books: 2004’s “October Men: Reggie Jackson, George Steinbrenner, Billy Martin, and the Yankees’ Miraculous Finish in 1978,” 1986’s “Joe and Marilyn: A Memory of Love,” and 1999’s “A Flame of Pure Fire: Jack Dempsey and the Roaring ‘20s.”

[Bronson66]

- - Sound more like U don't know shyte from shinola as is usual, ie Dempsey was long gone having passed in 1983.

Kahn’s other sports books: 2004’s “October Men: Reggie Jackson, George Steinbrenner, Billy Martin, and the Yankees’ Miraculous Finish in 1978,” 1986’s “Joe and Marilyn: A Memory of Love,” and 1999’s “A Flame of Pure Fire: Jack Dempsey and the Roaring ‘20s.”

Dempsey and Kahn were friends,I think it quite possible Kahn was privy to lots of inside stuff.

[Bennyleonard99]

Dempsey and Kahn were friends,I think it quite possible Kahn was privy to lots of inside stuff.

Yes Roger Kahn actually interviewed him personally for that awesome book.

[QueensburyRules]

Yes Roger Kahn actually interviewed him personally for that awesome book.

- - Interviewed him in the early 70s as something close to a Cub Reporter where he was instructed on the questions to ask. That's 20 years later.

The Dempsey autobio was put together by his beautiful daughter in law who took after her beautiful mother, Jack's last and best marriage. Since Jack is very humble about his few shortcomings and shares the pain of having little $$$ for most of his career, that's the magnus opus of all Dempsey writings.

Need to be humble about your shortcomings, but you ain't smart enough...

[Bennyleonard99]

- - Interviewed him in the early 70s as something close to a Cub Reporter where he was instructed on the questions to ask. That's 20 years later.

The Dempsey autobio was put together by his beautiful daughter in law who took after her beautiful mother, Jack's last and best marriage. Since Jack is very humble about his few shortcomings and shares the pain of having little $$$ for most of his career, that's the magnus opus of all Dempsey writings.

Need to be humble about your shortcomings, but you ain't smart enough...

You interviewed Jack?

[Willie Pep 229]

Jack never mentioned any of this in the Roger Khan book. Sounds like propaganda or fake news.

New Tork Times, September 20th 1927

This is an article regarding the SECOND letter regarding the Mike Trent issue. (Although it is addressed through mention of Boo Boo Hoff's involvement.) **

The first 'open letter' Dempsey sent was regarding Trent and the possible 'poisoning.' Tunney replied to with a condescending, dismissive note.

Don't think Dempsey didn't have an opinion on the matter in 1927. He most certainty did.

Roger Kahn is a popular and prolific writer/ historian, but he writes BIOGRAPHIES, the lowest form of history.

The absence of proof is not proof of absence. Stay away from biographies, they're written for money not love history.

September 20th 1927


CHICAGO, Sept. 19.-Jack Dempsey stood pat on his charges against Gene Tunney and today repeated his demand that the world's heavyweight champion explain all the facts regarding the 1926 title bout at Philadelphia. In reply to Tunney's letter asking Dempsey if he thought his action was "sportsmanlike" the Manassa Mauler shot a counter-question at the champion: "Does Tunney think it was sportsmanlike when he agreed to that deal with Max (500 Boo) Hoff in Philadelphia?" asked Dempsey.

At Dempsey's camp it was said that Jack has prepared another open letter to Tunney, in which he says that Tunney's answer is “unsatisfactory.”

"They're breaking my heart,” Tunney is reported as having said at his Lake Villa camp. "The letter has upset me so that I am afraid I shall not be able to go on with my training. Isn't it terrible?" And he is reported to have smiled sarcastically as he said it.

" There is a lot under the surface of this thin;,' said Gibson. "The Dempsey crowd is cooking up something. Lots of ugly rumors are floating around Chicago about the ſight and what Dempsey has up his sleeve. But I am absolutely confident that everything will be all right and that Gene Tunney will walk out of the ring Thursday night still heavyweight champion."


** I will endeavor to locate the first letter which addresses the Trent issue directly.