James Toney v Julian Jackson at 160 who wins in 1992

[MalevolentBite]

- - When in doubt, the usual suspects play the race card ignoring the rich overall inclusion of Racial diversity of boxing that saw a few American fighters including Black fighters endure the pitching sea sickening wind powered schooners to England early in Boxing's 18th Century rebirth.

That's a fair statement even though you are acting like what I said isnt true. Queensbury where are you from may I ask ?

[IronDanHamza]

I wasnt arguing his first ballot. I was just stating hes a hall of famer and all time great. I wasn't arguing first ballot. That was irrelevant for my purpose. It seems like every where James toney is mentioned you got something negative to say. Idk if you are racist but theres definitely racist people on here. Whether that overlaps with you thats something only you can confirm. I do think you down play Americans though.

Ok and I don’t care. The post you were responding to was in direct response to someone saying he’s a first ballot HOF’er which he objectively is not.

You do think I down play Americans you say? Give examples then. Go..

[IronDanHamza]

Yet. You understand me enough to keep responding to me lol. So if you deem me so uneducated then stop engaging with me Dan. Lol.

I cant say you personally dont like black boxers. I dont know your race. That was a general comment for most boxing websites that tend to give negativity to black American fighters. Most Europeans have a downward opinion of Americans in general regardless of race. So thats understandable if you do. Americans are some of the most hated nationalities. I guess its well deserved in a way. I just don't get the toney hate.

Probably because there isn’t any “hate” you dumb fuck.

This “hate” crap is only pulled out when you can’t respond to the factual information provided.

[MalevolentBite]

Ok and I don’t care. The post you were responding to was in direct response to someone saying he’s a first ballot HOF’er which he objectively is not.

You do think I down play Americans you say? Give examples then. Go..

James Toney is for one. You downplay his career and his talent. Was Gatti first ballot? Refresh my memory.

[MalevolentBite]

Probably because there isn’t any “hate” you dumb fuck.

This “hate” crap is only pulled out when you can’t respond to the factual information provided.

Well if you are admitting you dont have a negative opinion on american boxers then I misspoke. If you are being genuine. I do sense a negative bias though towards toney but maybe its towards him as a person which is fine.

Why do you have to talk so crass ? Its not professional or even respectable. Atleast show case your mental fortitude without cursing.

[QueensburyRules]

That's a fair statement even though you are acting like what I said isnt true. Queensbury where are you from may I ask ?

- - Born and bred in Texas along with George Foreman...yep...

[SCtrojansbaby]

Jackson is probably the perfect fighter for Toney to look great against

[Verus]

It was always hard to hit Toney with clean shots. I would say Toney would win most fights against Jackson.

[IronDanHamza]

James Toney is for one. You downplay his career and his talent. Was Gatti first ballot? Refresh my memory.

You said I downplay AmericanS plural.

Name them.

I’ve no idea if Arturo Gatti got inducted on the first ballot, look it up yourself if you want to know.

[IronDanHamza]

Well if you are admitting you dont have a negative opinion on american boxers then I misspoke. If you are being genuine. I do sense a negative bias though towards toney but maybe its towards him as a person which is fine.

Why do you have to talk so crass ? It’s not professional or even respectable. Atleast show case your mental fortitude without cursing.

Yes I’m aware that factual critique is deemed “hate” when it can’t be responded to. That’s a running theme.

I will talk how I want to talk.