Who was the best American Heavyweight Champion 2000-2025?

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  • MalevolentBite
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    #21
    Originally posted by Willow The Wisp

    He's a clean living, ultra friendly guy who I like very much. Can you pick your list from the 19 21st century guys who I've put above him as ones who you beleive Chris should outrank? I'll listen.
    Outside of my restrictions of keeping it only based on the years of 2000-2025. I would stay honestly there's only two people I would put ahead of Chris Byrd from your list if we are only talking about Americans and thats Deontay Wilder and Mike Tyson and thats it. Chris Byrd had a way better OVERALL career then Rahman or Andy Ruiz. Andy Ruiz if anything is an underachiever that could had done more. Outside his AJ upset. Thats it. That's basically his whole career. Same could be said for Rahman. Deontay just for the fact he had all those title defenses and arguably probably was robbed of a lineal title because most referees would had waived Tyson off. Just like they waived off and robbed Taylor against Chavez!!!!!!!! The fact that chris byrd was a two time champion speaks volumes. Deontay will never be two time champion. Plus Fury, AJ, Lennox. and Byrd all have something in common Wilder doesn't. They actually managed to defeat a Klitschko. Thats an accomplishment. The Klitschkos especially the older one are probably top 25 greatest heavyweights of all time. Out of your list. I can fit him in top 15ish. I dont care to order them. But no way I would put Rahman or Ruiz over him.

    Plus Byrd took Tua to SCHOOL. And Tua was never a Champion. Byrd was 2x Champion.
    Last edited by MalevolentBite; 06-19-2025, 11:19 AM.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Willow The Wisp

      He's a clean living, ultra friendly guy who I like very much. Can you pick your list from the 19 21st century guys who I've put above him as ones who you beleive Chris should outrank? I'll listen.

      1. Lennox Lewis
      2. Oleksandr Usyk
      3.Vitali Klitschko
      4.Wladimir Klitschko
      5. Tyson Fury

      I stopped after this because its just ugly at this point for me. But Chris would be top 10-15. I really couldn't put anybody else over him besides Tyson and Holyfield if you are counting them. Parker would be top ten.

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      • Anomalocaris
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        #23
        Originally posted by MalevolentBite

        There's nothing wrong with being dropped. I was just making a point for a man of his size tyson chin was always suspect. I dont think ppl have that same notion for Ali.
        He got dropped but has always got back up.

        His recuperative powers were almost supernatural - the resurrection being a prime example.

        Not many heavyweights can say that they have never been KO'd.

        Plus I believe the Fury of Vlad or Wilder 2 gives anyone in history sheer hell and beats Usyk (as great as he is).

        I just wish a prime Fury had got to kick Joshua's overrated ass.




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          #24
          Originally posted by Anomalocaris

          He got dropped but has always got back up.

          His recuperative powers were almost supernatural - the resurrection being a prime example.

          Not many heavyweights can say that they have never been KO'd.

          Plus I believe the Fury of Vlad or Wilder 2 gives anyone in history sheer hell and beats Usyk (as great as he is).

          I just wish a prime Fury had got to kick Joshua's overrated ass.



          I totally agree.

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          • Willow The Wisp
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            #25
            Originally posted by Anomalocaris

            He got dropped but has always got back up.

            His recuperative powers were almost supernatural - the resurrection being a prime example.

            Not many heavyweights can say that they have never been KO'd.

            Plus I believe the Fury of Vlad or Wilder 2 gives anyone in history sheer hell and beats Usyk (as great as he is).

            I just wish a prime Fury had got to kick Joshua's overrated ass.



            You win a cigar for being just a little bit smarter and better versed on the subject than those who might disagree.

            And doesn't that feel great!!!!!!!?

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              #26
              Originally posted by Anomalocaris

              He got dropped but has always got back up.

              His recuperative powers were almost supernatural - the resurrection being a prime example.

              Not many heavyweights can say that they have never been KO'd.

              Plus I believe the Fury of Vlad or Wilder 2 gives anyone in history sheer hell and beats Usyk (as great as he is).

              I just wish a prime Fury had got to kick Joshua's overrated ass.



              - - Sound like someone honking out of Blubber's rump.

              WBC Homeless heavyweight champion Tyson Fury first announced earlier this year that after tortured negotiations with Eddie Hearn of Matchroom Sport for a Anthony Joshua unification that led to 50/50 split of a stupendous $150 million guarantee, he instead signed a contract to fight the now defrocked Deontay Wilder with his dented noggin for their peanuts guarantee. Nobody, not even his own daddy wanted to see such a misbegotten trilogy of misfits.​

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              • Anomalocaris
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                #27
                Originally posted by Willow The Wisp

                You win a cigar for being just a little bit smarter and better versed on the subject than those who might disagree.

                And doesn't that feel great!!!!!!!?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Anomalocaris

                  He got dropped but has always got back up.

                  His recuperative powers were almost supernatural - the resurrection being a prime example.

                  Not many heavyweights can say that they have never been KO'd.

                  Plus I believe the Fury of Vlad or Wilder 2 gives anyone in history sheer hell and beats Usyk (as great as he is).

                  I just wish a prime Fury had got to kick Joshua's overrated ass.



                  I couldn't have said it better myself. Totally agree!

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                  • The D3vil
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by MalevolentBite

                    I think you forgot Steve Cunningham dropped Fury. I think you might have a good point but Deontay didn't beat Fury so I can't really put him over a 2x heavyweight champion Byrd. Wilder is up there because of title defenses.

                    Maybe the Cannon could had landed on Fury. I wouldnt put money on it though.
                    Yeah, Cunningham got a flash knock down on Fury, when he was young, but Klitschko, White, & Chisora didn't.

                    Nobody knocked down the prime version of Fury but Wilder.

                    Even Usyk struggled against Fury AFTER he'd been floored & almost beaten by Ngannou, who'd never even had a boxing match.

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                    • MalevolentBite
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by The D3vil

                      Yeah, Cunningham got a flash knock down on Fury, when he was young, but Klitschko, White, & Chisora didn't.

                      Nobody knocked down the prime version of Fury but Wilder.

                      Even Usyk struggled against Fury AFTER he'd been floored & almost beaten by Ngannou, who'd never even had a boxing match.
                      I understand. Too be fair. Klitschko, white and chrisora were also not in their primes in those fights.

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