Was James j jeffries one of the greatest?

[travestyny]

The opinion below is that his bias was due to being a former fighter himself. From the Gazette (Af. American Newspaper) in 1905.

And here is Bob Fitzsimmons saying he believes Johnson got "a bad deal".

[travestyny]

Insisting on a referee? Isn't that just conjecture?

I have seen it mentioned that Hart's camp wanted Greggains from the very beginning. Greggains was also the manager of the club. I wonder if his giving the fight to Hart had anything to do with Jeffries already declaring that if Johnson won, he still wouldn't get the fight. Maybe he was angling for Hart vs. Jeffries at his club since he knew Johnson vs. Jeffries was dead in the water...???

I haven't seen what Johnson himself thought of this. Here it says his manager "was satisfied."

[GhostofDempsey]

One paper says no effect the other effect.

You chose the newspaper that fit your agenda.

This is like taking Fox News' opinion of an event over CNN's opinion of the same event.

It only serves to expose your bias. It doesn't get you anywhere near the truth.

Seriously this very same nonsense is alive all around you, at this moment. Why would you take the Sporting News over the Post? Do you know anything about either of these papers in 1908?

Another anonymous news article from over 100 years ago is all he has to stand on, like every other argument he fails to win.

[travestyny]

Another anonymous news article from over 100 years ago is all he has to stand on, like every other argument he fails to win.

I suppose you believe this is much better. Some Reno paper, some time ago....

Jeffries quote to a Reno paper suggests he never said he could never have beaten Johnson.

“Had I met Johnson when I was in my prime the result would have been different-I would have beaten him. As it was, I wore myself down and was beaten as much by the effects of my own exertions as I was by Johnson's blows.”

By the way, funny that good ol' Willie didn't try to call you out for Jeffries using the word "prime." Talk about being selective, huh, Willie


You clowns always give yourselves away.