Top 50ish P4P 1960-Present

[Anomalocaris]

Buchanan was better than any fighter JCC ever beat.

Duran himself recently said he was the toughest.

If not for that shot to the balls Ken would have gone the distance.

A top 10 all time great lightweight and the second best fighter to come from Scotland after Benny Lynch

[QueensburyRules]

Buchanan was better than any fighter JCC ever beat.

Duran himself recently said he was the toughest.

If not for that shot to the balls Ken would have gone the distance.

A top 10 all time great lightweight and the second best fighter to come from Scotland after Benny Lynch

- - Duran was just a baby when he beat Buchanan.

Why has BScene been down the past few days. Digital update?

[DeeMoney]

- - Duran was just a baby when he beat Buchanan.

Why has BScene been down the past few days. Digital update?

Its been sporadic for me over the last few weeks, but no problem over the last few days (though we may be in different time zones and trying at different hours).
I've noticed it too though recently

[SCtrojansbaby]

Buchanan was better than any fighter JCC ever beat.

Duran himself recently said he was the toughest.

If not for that shot to the balls Ken would have gone the distance.

A top 10 all time great lightweight and the second best fighter to come from Scotland after Benny Lynch

I have a hard time seeing Buchanon winning more than a round or 2 vs Camacho

[JAB5239]

I have a hard time seeing Buchanon winning more than a round or 2 vs Camacho

I disagree with this. By the time JCC got to Camacho, Hector wasn't nearly the fighter he had been in the mid eighties. So much so he barely eeked out a split decision against Haugen after giving the first fight away.

[The D3vil]

WK was # 1 p4p in Ring Magazine. You can get no higher.

The board may wish to consider Joe Calzage for tier 4 as he beat Jones, and Hopkins and has a 0 at the end of his record.

Monzon is overrated here. His resume of wins is average.

Jones was roided up. It's hard to say what he is without the PED's.

Klit never rose above #2 P4P. in Ring's rankings

[MalevolentBite]

My system

50% resume
25% ability
25% longevity

Tier1

Roy Jones Jr
Muhammad Ali
Carlos Monzon
Sugar Ray Leonard
Julio Cesar Chavez

Tier2

Mike McCallum Manny Pacquiao
Roberto Duran
Roman Gonzalez
Bernard Hopkins
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Michael Spinks
Wilfredo Gomez
Evaded Holyfield

Tier3

George Foreman
Fighting Harada
Marco Antonio Barrera
Lennox Lewis
Salvador Sanchez
Oleksandr Usyk
Emile Griffith
Eder Jofre
Andre Ward
Nonito Donaire
Jeff Fenech
Finito Lopez

Tier4

Rueben Olivares
Rafael Marquez
Juan Estrada
Canelo Alvarez
Juan Manuel Marquez
Jose Napoles
Winky Wright
Marvin Hagler
Felix Trinidad
James Toney
Alexis Arguello
Thomas Hearns
Erik Morales
Shane Mosley
Chris Eubank
Aaron Pryor
Sot Chilada
Joe Frazier
Larry Holmes
Azumah Nelson
Miguel Canto
Bob Foster
Pernell Whitaker
Humberto Gonzalez
**** Tiger
Naoya Inoue

Flame away...

Chavez and Roy Jones teir one? They both one of the most shocky resumes ever. I mean I get it Roy was avoided but he fought a full time cop during his prime. Lets give him the Hopkins fight and a james toney with weight issues then fighting one of the weakest heavyweight champions ever.

Nahh come on now. I aint trying to be the one but overall resume Hopkins did better then him over his career resume wise.

Then Chavez that went 40-0 against nobodies ? Idc what ppl stay Maverick was robbed they could had gave him a standing count. Pernell got robbed too.

Idk about that those two. no shade.

[MalevolentBite]

Chavez too high.

Duran, Whittaker, Hearns, & Hagler too low.

No way Mike Tyson & Oscar De La Hoya shouldn't be on the list.

Both have been Ring's P4P #1 in their careers and are 2 of the 5 or so biggest draws in boxing history

That Chavez one made me spit out my drink. Smdh. Crazy !!!

[MalevolentBite]

WK was # 1 p4p in Ring Magazine. You can get no higher.

The board may wish to consider Joe Calzage for tier 4 as he beat Jones, and Hopkins and has a 0 at the end of his record.

Monzon is overrated here. His resume of wins is average.

Jones was roided up. It's hard to say what he is without the PED's.

Joe Calzaghe? Dude log off lol.

[MalevolentBite]

Maybe that is the dumbest list I have ever seen on here. Hard to tell. There have been some bad ones. Now the guy wants to defend it.

Idk how i feel about this list overall. Put Chavez top teir is wild. So Chavez first 48-0 was better than Larry holms ? Nah. Chavez had alot of cans.