The Greatness of Joe Frazier and an example of when the lineal was needed and came to the rescue of boxing

[kafkod]

Lmao!!!! So you are saying there is not a succession of fighters ( lineal) of the man who beat the man going all the way back to Sullivan? And I'm dumb?

And you STILL haven't answered my question. If lineal wasn't viable and that's the reason YOU claim they got rid of it in the 90's than why bring it back in an era with more orgs and cartoon titles?

So you weren't pretending to be dumb. You really don't understand how analogies work.

Ok, I'll try to keep this simple for you. Yes, Sullivan is recorded as the first lineal HW champ. But that record was drawn up AFTER Sullivan's death. He was "awarded" the lineal title posthumously by Ring Magazine. He couldn't have fought for any lineal title, because the concept of lineal titles didn't exist during his lifetime. It was invented by the Ring in the 1920s.

Ring Magazine haven't brought back the lineal title. The Ring title is now awarded based on ratings, not lineages.

[JAB5239]

So you weren't pretending to be dumb. You really don't understand how analogies work.

Ok, I'll try to keep this simple for you. Yes, Sullivan is recorded as the first lineal HW champ. But that record was drawn up AFTER Sullivan's death. He was "awarded" the lineal title posthumously by Ring Magazine. He couldn't have fought for any lineal title, because the concept of lineal titles didn't exist during his lifetime. It was invented by the Ring in the 1920s.

Ring Magazine haven't brought back the lineal title. The Ring title is now awarded based on ratings, not lineages.

Ring magazine was around when Sullivan won the title. Nothing changes he was first and nothing changes the succession. Ring is based on ratings and not lineage? If Usyk loses, does not the next guy become the (lineal) champion? The Ring has nothing to do with lineal other than they have recognized it. Lineal is an entity of itself. It can't be changed.

[kafkod]

Ring magazine was around when Sullivan won the title. Nothing changes he was first and nothing changes the succession. Ring is based on ratings and not lineage? If Usyk loses, does not the next guy become the (lineal) champion? The Ring has nothing to do with lineal other than they have recognized it. Lineal is an entity of itself. It can't be changed.

"Ring magazine was around when Sullivan won the title."

Sullivan won the HW title in 1895. Ring was first published in 1922.

The rest of what you wrote there is nothing but trite word salad. If Usyk loses, the guy who beats him becomes the new champion.

By the power of ...The Lineal

[JAB5239]

"Ring magazine was around when Sullivan won the title."

Sullivan won the HW title in 1895. Ring was first published in 1922.

The rest of what you wrote there is nothing but trite word salad. If Usyk loses, the guy who beats him becomes the new champion.

By the power of ...The Lineal

Wow, I missed an Nand a T in wasn't. Either way, Ring wasn't around but the was the beginning of the lineage. And yes, if Usyk losses the Dubois he has lost the lineal title and it's passed on to the man who beat the man, not because some belt that has to be paid for is on the line. That's just decoration.

[QueensburyRules]

Ring magazine was around when Sullivan won the title. Nothing changes he was first and nothing changes the succession. Ring is based on ratings and not lineage? If Usyk loses, does not the next guy become the (lineal) champion? The Ring has nothing to do with lineal other than they have recognized it. Lineal is an entity of itself. It can't be changed.

- - Sadly getting Dum and Dummer with no end in sight, ie uneducable.

U gotta chimp or a baboon inputting daily drivel on this forum?

[JAB5239]

- - Sadly getting Dum and Dummer with no end in sight, ie uneducable.

U gotta chimp or a baboon inputting daily drivel on this forum?

[kafkod]

Wow, I missed an Nand a T in wasn't. Either way, Ring wasn't around but the was the beginning of the lineage. And yes, if Usyk losses the Dubois he has lost the lineal title and it's passed on to the man who beat the man, not because some belt that has to be paid for is on the line. That's just decoration.

Yeah, the passengers on a passenger train and the goods on a goods train are just decorations too.

The real purpose of the rail network is to give trainspotters something to do in their spare time.

[kafkod]

- - Sadly getting Dum and Dummer with no end in sight, ie uneducable.

U gotta chimp or a baboon inputting daily drivel on this forum?

Which is dumberer, a chimp, a baboon, or a guy who thinks that the world title belts on the line in a world title fight are just decorations?

[Willow The Wisp]

So you weren't pretending to be dumb. You really don't understand how analogies work.

Ok, I'll try to keep this simple for you. Yes, Sullivan is recorded as the first lineal HW champ. But that record was drawn up AFTER Sullivan's death. He was "awarded" the lineal title posthumously by Ring Magazine. He couldn't have fought for any lineal title, because the concept of lineal titles didn't exist during his lifetime. It was invented by the Ring in the 1920s.

Ring Magazine haven't brought back the lineal title. The Ring title is now awarded based on ratings, not lineages.

You have got your chronology wrong. FIRST, you have to study and learn about a subject. THEN, you can develop and share any thoughts that you might have on the subject.

The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias where individuals with limited knowledge or competence in a particular area overestimate their ability in that area. This means they're not only unskilled, but also unaware of their lack of skill and how poorly they're performing. Here's a breakdown of the Dunning-Kruger effect:
• Overestimation:
Individuals with low competence often have a high inflated sense of their own abilities.
• Lack of Self-Awareness:
They are often unable to recognize their own incompetence and the mistakes they make.
• Inaccurate Self-Assessment:
This bias leads to individuals making poor decisions and failing to recognize their errors.
Why it happens:
• Lack of Expertise:
Low-ability individuals often lack the skills needed to assess their own abilities accurately.
• Cognitive Bias:
The effect is a type of cognitive bias that distorts perception and judgment.
Examples of the Dunning-Kruger effect:
• A medical student who thinks they would get a much higher grade on their final exam if they received a D+ or lower.
• A student who doesn't study for an exam because they feel confident in the material and it seems easy, then ends up failing.
Consequences of the Dunning-Kruger effect:
• Poor Decision-Making: Individuals may make mistakes or poor decisions due to their overestimation of their abilities.
• Resistance to Feedback: They may be less open to constructive criticism or feedback.
• Lack of Learning: They may not realize they need to learn or improve their skills.
How to mitigate the Dunning-Kruger effect:
• Question your knowledge: Be open to different viewpoints and seek feedback from trusted sources.
• Be open to constructive criticism: Don't become defensive when you receive criticism.
• Make it a priority to continue learning: Seek out opportunities to learn and grow.
In simple terms: The Dunning-Kruger effect highlights the fact that people with limited expertise often overestimate their knowledge and abilities, and are often unaware of their mistakes.

[kafkod]

You have got your chronology wrong. FIRST, you have to study and learn about a subject. THEN, you can develop and share any thoughts that you might have on the subject.

The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias where individuals with limited knowledge or competence in a particular area overestimate their ability in that area. This means they're not only unskilled, but also unaware of their lack of skill and how poorly they're performing. Here's a breakdown of the Dunning-Kruger effect:
• Overestimation:
Individuals with low competence often have a high inflated sense of their own abilities.
• Lack of Self-Awareness:
They are often unable to recognize their own incompetence and the mistakes they make.
• Inaccurate Self-Assessment:
This bias leads to individuals making poor decisions and failing to recognize their errors.
Why it happens:
• Lack of Expertise:
Low-ability individuals often lack the skills needed to assess their own abilities accurately.
• Cognitive Bias:
The effect is a type of cognitive bias that distorts perception and judgment.
Examples of the Dunning-Kruger effect:
• A medical student who thinks they would get a much higher grade on their final exam if they received a D+ or lower.
• A student who doesn't study for an exam because they feel confident in the material and it seems easy, then ends up failing.
Consequences of the Dunning-Kruger effect:
• Poor Decision-Making: Individuals may make mistakes or poor decisions due to their overestimation of their abilities.
• Resistance to Feedback: They may be less open to constructive criticism or feedback.
• Lack of Learning: They may not realize they need to learn or improve their skills.
How to mitigate the Dunning-Kruger effect:
• Question your knowledge: Be open to different viewpoints and seek feedback from trusted sources.
• Be open to constructive criticism: Don't become defensive when you receive criticism.
• Make it a priority to continue learning: Seek out opportunities to learn and grow.
In simple terms: The Dunning-Kruger effect highlights the fact that people with limited expertise often overestimate their knowledge and abilities, and are often unaware of their mistakes.

I know what the D/K effect is and I haven't got my chronology wrong.

Ring Magazine didn't exist when Sullivan became world champ. It was first published in 1922 .... 2 years after Sullivan's death and nearly 40 years after his lineal championship reign began.