Top 10 Fastest Handed Fighters Adjusted For Weight

[QueensburyRules]

- - Manny was faster than the speed of light through 8 title divisions. No other adjustment needed...yer welcome...

[DeeMoney]

Patterson had faster hands than Ali,imo.Mike Dokes too.

Agreed, but this is where it gets tricky with heavyweights and measuring adjusted for weight. Ali was a lot bigger than Floyd, 30 pounds heavier when they fought directly, that roughly two or three weight classes worth of difference if we kept with the normal trajectory. If we are supposing, as the post presumes, that the lighter the fighter the easier it is to throw quicker punches, then does Ali get a bonus in this measurement?

Conversely, while Ali was fast he was never really sitting down on his punches. Conversely, Floyd was fast with more of his force (relatively speaking). Do we give him credit for throwing faster punches that he was also throwing with more power (at least relative to his weight)?

[JeBron Lamez]

This will likely raise some mirth but if we really are just talking hand speed, the glass-jawed KO artist that was Lightweight baby Amir Khan was a blur.

[Mr Mitts]

Ali or Patterson, who is faster? Patterson's single punch was fast but his combinations were not as fast as Ali's, who used his blazing hand speed and combinations more consistently.

[Anomalocaris]

Ali or Patterson, who is faster? Patterson's single punch was fast but his combinations were not as fast as Ali's, who used his blazing hand speed and combinations more consistently.

Truly hard to say, although of course Ali was the same size as Sonny.

That matters.

The bigger they are the slower they are.

In general.

[Mr Mitts]

Truly hard to say, although of course Ali was the same size as Sonny.

PPP that matters.

The bigger they are the slower they are.

In general.

Essentially the same size by that time, though proportioned differently. Floyd wanted to box and suddenly leap out with a lightning hook. With all respect to Cus, Patty probably was not coached well for that match; he showed no evidence of creative coaching for the few moments he lasted. I'd have to watch one more time to get the times. I guess I will.

[Willie Pep 229]

Essentially the same size by that time, though proportioned differently. Floyd wanted to box and suddenly leap out with a lightning hook. With all respect to Cus, Patty probably was not coached well for that match; he showed no evidence of creative coaching for the few moments he lasted. I'd have to watch one more time to get the times. I guess I will.

Patterson broke off his relationship with D'Amato so he could take the Liston fight.

D'Amato refused to assoicate with (let Patterson fight) anyone who had been connected to the IBC even though it was gone by 1961.

Patterson did the right thing. Broke wIth D'Amato and took the Liston fight.

I doubt it would have made a difference but he was without D'Amato's help for the Liston goes.

Dan Florio was Patterson's trainer/cornerman for the Liston fights. He had been Patterson's trainer before D'Amato.

[MikeyMike100]

I think if we are adjusting for size then Rid**** Bowe should get some consideration

[QueensburyRules]

I think if we are adjusting for size then Rid**** Bowe should get some consideration

- - If we adjust for dummyness, Big Dummy may be the fastest Big Dummy ever...yeah...

[Mr Mitts]

Patterson broke off his relationship with D'Amato so he could take the Liston fight.

D'Amato refused to assoicate with (let Patterson fight) anyone who had been connected to the IBC even though it was gone by 1961.

Patterson did the right thing. Broke wIth D'Amato and took the Liston fight.

I doubt it would have made a difference but he was without D'Amato's help for the Liston goes.

Dan Florio was Patterson's trainer/cornerman for the Liston fights. He had been Patterson's trainer before D'Amato.

Great information! Cus not likely to make a difference. I will go so far as to say no style, strategy or tactic Pat could have employed would have been enough to overcome Liston. But it would be interesting to see how Cus would have "fixed" things for the rematch wouldn't it?

In 1 he came right out and tried to take command. But Liston shut that down immediately. Pat did try to move a little better in 2 but remained helpless as an abandoned chick.

D'Amato could always use the excuse that Floyd lost because he was not preparing him. I wonder if he did?