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Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post
Patterson had faster hands than Ali,imo.Mike Dokes too.
Conversely, while Ali was fast he was never really sitting down on his punches. Conversely, Floyd was fast with more of his force (relatively speaking). Do we give him credit for throwing faster punches that he was also throwing with more power (at least relative to his weight)?
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Originally posted by Mr Mitts View PostAli or Patterson, who is faster? Patterson's single punch was fast but his combinations were not as fast as Ali's, who used his blazing hand speed and combinations more consistently.
That matters.
The bigger they are the slower they are.
In general.Last edited by Anomalocaris; 04-17-2025, 09:25 AM.
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Originally posted by Anomalocaris View Post
Truly hard to say, although of course Ali was the same size as Sonny.
PPP that matters.
The bigger they are the slower they are.
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Originally posted by Mr Mitts View Post
Essentially the same size by that time, though proportioned differently. Floyd wanted to box and suddenly leap out with a lightning hook. With all respect to Cus, Patty probably was not coached well for that match; he showed no evidence of creative coaching for the few moments he lasted. I'd have to watch one more time to get the times. I guess I will.
D'Amato refused to assoicate with (let Patterson fight) anyone who had been connected to the IBC even though it was gone by 1961.
Patterson did the right thing. Broke wIth D'Amato and took the Liston fight.
I doubt it would have made a difference but he was without D'Amato's help for the Liston goes.
Dan Florio was Patterson's trainer/cornerman for the Liston fights. He had been Patterson's trainer before D'Amato.
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Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post
Patterson broke off his relationship with D'Amato so he could take the Liston fight.
D'Amato refused to assoicate with (let Patterson fight) anyone who had been connected to the IBC even though it was gone by 1961.
Patterson did the right thing. Broke wIth D'Amato and took the Liston fight.
I doubt it would have made a difference but he was without D'Amato's help for the Liston goes.
Dan Florio was Patterson's trainer/cornerman for the Liston fights. He had been Patterson's trainer before D'Amato.
In 1 he came right out and tried to take command. But Liston shut that down immediately. Pat did try to move a little better in 2 but remained helpless as an abandoned chick.
D'Amato could always use the excuse that Floyd lost because he was not preparing him. I wonder if he did?Willie Pep 229 likes this.
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