Could Hearns Have Made Same Day WW Weigh-Ins, Or Did He?

[Mr Mitts]

I don't know if he ever did but will just say: if he never did, would that change your opinion of him on the ATG WW ladder?

[JAB5239]

I don't know if he ever did but will just say: if he never did, would that change your opinion of him on the ATG WW ladder?

Hearns made same day weigh ins at Welterweight. It didn't change until 1983 i believe, and I want to say Paz vs Haugen was the last fight with same day weigh ins. Could be wrong though.

[4truth]

In fact the reason he lost to SRL was that he weighed in at 145 for a welter fight.

Obviously this is just an opinion but predictably he was sapped completely of energy after 12 rounds of their 15 round fight. I do not believe anyone beats a properly prepared Hearns at 147

[JAB5239]

In fact the reason he lost to SRL was that he weighed in at 145 for a welter fight.

Obviously this is just an opinion but predictably he was sapped completely of energy after 12 rounds of their 15 round fight. I do not believe anyone beats a properly prepared Hearns at 147

Maybe, maybe not. Hearns was still a young man and making welterweight comfortably. Myself, if I was training him, I would have wanted him right at 147. Hard to say if coming in at 145 really effected him.

[Anomalocaris]

In fact the reason he lost to SRL was that he weighed in at 145 for a welter fight.

Obviously this is just an opinion but predictably he was sapped completely of energy after 12 rounds of their 15 round fight. I do not believe anyone beats a properly prepared Hearns at 147

Exactly.

I think Tommy came in far too light.

He is actually one of the the unluckiest fighters in history.

He broke his right hand with the first punch he landed against Hagler. Thus the most devastating weapon in boxing was disabled.

I think with a fully functioning right he could have kept Marvin off until he tired and Tommy would have won on points.

[QueensburyRules]

In fact the reason he lost to SRL was that he weighed in at 145 for a welter fight.

Obviously this is just an opinion but predictably he was sapped completely of energy after 12 rounds of their 15 round fight. I do not believe anyone beats a properly prepared Hearns at 147

- - My first thought was Steward allowed him to over train, a red flag for any boxing fan who can count to ten and tie his shoes. The fight was so big for him that he overemoted his in training, but we saw the damage he inflicted on Ray with just his jab.

[Mr Mitts]

Iron Hammy vs Toney
Anomalocaris vs Hagler
Me vs Hopkins
Queen vs Holmes
Z vs J Johnson

[JAB5239]

Iron Hammy vs Toney
Anomalocaris vs Hagler
Me vs Hopkins
Queen vs Holmes
Z vs J Johnson

[Willie Pep 229]

- - My first thought was Steward allowed him to over train, a red flag for any boxing fan who can count to ten and tie his shoes. The fight was so big for him that he overemoted his in training, but we saw the damage he inflicted on Ray with just his jab.

Queen,

I never understood the phrase. My only experience with competition was as high school wrestler, but I was serious in weight management and conditioning and it made me a better than decent wrestler.

So, I can't say I understand this concept at a professional level, but I also never could make sense as to what it's suspose to mean.

I must say, whenever I heard it in boxing, I always felt I was hearing an excuse.

Here a few of my thoughts on it, but not much.

1. It can definitely appear mentally. I do believe one can let anxiety diminish performance and burn energy before the event starts. But that's not training, or is it?

2. I suspect a couple of days of rest before the actual event is beneficial, but again that doesn't seem to suggest over-training, just poor rest management.

3. I always felt that pushing myself harder and walking away from practice exhausted, made me feel stronger. I never felt like I needed less.

So anyway, you say you have fought and I would like to hear what you mean by the phrase.

[johnnysmith]

- - My first thought was Steward allowed him to over train, a red flag for any boxing fan who can count to ten and tie his shoes. The fight was so big for him that he overemoted his in training, but we saw the damage he inflicted on Ray with just his jab.

I gotta agree with Queen here—overtraining could’ve been a factor with Hearns. That jab was a damn sledgehammer early on, but you could see him fading as the fight wore on. Maybe Steward pushed him too hard, or maybe Tommy just emptied the tank trying to prove he belonged at that level. Either way, a fresh Hearns at 147 is a nightmare for anyone, SRL included. Thoughts? block blast