Froch to fight Calzaghe??

[Haka]

Froch entertained it, that's all. And he entertained it at 168, not a cacartwright. Froch and Calzaghe are a different matter as at that time they were both active.

I don't get what you mean by "all evidence". What evidence is that? And psychologically being fine is as and in many cases more important than being physically ready. You keep saying you couldn't get Froch in the ring with GGG. But you ignore the fact you couldn't get GGG in the ring with Ward. End of the day Carl was retired. If he had come out of retirement, been called out at 168 and refused you could make a case. But the simple fact is that's not what happened. That in turn means he did not duck anyone.

You ignore the fact that HBOd didn't want Wart on their network since they could not afford another bombing another broadcast with a hugging fest. Froch was always the one with the outspoken trash talk, and the come forward style, so it remains questionable that in his prime, or close to it, Froch, as a prizefighter, could under no circumstance be bothered with Mexican style shootout against GGG even after guaranteed record numbers an all departments.

[JAB5239]

You ignore the fact that HBOd didn't want Wart on their network since they could not afford another bombing another broadcast with a hugging fest. Froch was always the one with the outspoken trash talk, and the come forward style, so it remains questionable that in his prime, or close to it, Froch, as a prizefighter, could under no circumstance be bothered with Mexican style shootout against GGG even after guaranteed record numbers an all departments.

They didn't? Prove it. Six of his last seven fights were on HBO. before that he was ties to Showtime for the Super 6 tournament. His fight against Chad Dawson (on HBO) drew 1.3 million viewers. Ward was no PPV darling, but saying HBO didn't want him is untrue. Put him together with GGG and they would be a huge draw. But Golovkin didn't want it. So why is that not a duck (he did entertain it) but you think the retired Froch ducked Gennady?

[Haka]

They didn't? Prove it. Six of his last seven fights were on HBO. before that he was ties to Showtime for the Super 6 tournament. His fight against Chad Dawson (on HBO) drew 1.3 million viewers. Ward was no PPV darling, but saying HBO didn't want him is untrue. Put him together with GGG and they would be a huge draw. But Golovkin didn't want it. So why is that not a duck (he did entertain it) but you think the retired Froch ducked Gennady?

Why did Ward not linger around at 168 longer ? He was a boring hugger that utilized a big weight cut as an integral part of his competitiveness. HBO was not going to setup a show to accommodate Wart for all the bad numbers and boring hugfests they had to deal with, that is not a GGG problem.

[JAB5239]

HBO was not going to setup a show to accommodate Wart for all the bad numbers and boring hugfests they had to deal with, that is not a GGG problem.

You're being either untruthful or completely unknowledgeable of what you're talking about.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2016/3/30/11331278/andre-ward-tops-terence-crawfords-ratings-for-hbo

https://www.boxingscene.com/articles/andre-wards-ring-return-hbo-averages-1064-million-viewers

https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing/andre-ward-draws-1-3-million-viewers-tko-223459651--box.html

Like I said, Ward wasn't setting records for viewership, but stop saying HBO would not set up a show with GGG when they already had with lesser known fighters. Both top p4p fighters, it would have done good numbers. Especially with GGG moving up to try and make history. But GGG didn't want to move up for Ward. Yet we're to believe Froch who was retired ducked Golovkin because he entertained an idea of a fight, that he scrapped because Golovin wanted a catchweight? Yeah right.

[JAB5239]

Why did Ward not linger around at 168 ?

Because he cleaned it out by beating all the best fighters there. Then he moved up and beat the best lightheavyweight at the time.

[JAB5239]

Why did Ward not linger around at 168 longer ? He was a boring hugger that utilized a big weight cut as an integral part of his competitiveness. HBO was not going to setup a show to accommodate Wart for all the bad numbers and boring hugfests they had to deal with, that is not a GGG problem.

Why did Golovkin not move up?

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Froch is the best fighter who has ever lived by far, as is Calzaghe, as is TBE Mayweather. Froch and Calzaghe are in many ways still in their primes, let's make it happen with Brook vs Khan 2 co-main, this time without Khan being disadvantaged due to those cupping spots. TBE Mayweather is definitely the best fighter of all time, but he avoided Khan as he knew Khan would beat him. Khan is also the best fighter of all time, as is Brook. Nash out - His Majesty

[Haka]

Why did Golovkin not move up?

By the time the Golovkin Froch talks were going on Ward was already fighting at custom weight classes of 172lbs. Good luck squeezing another 4lbs and not show up as a corpse on fight night. There is nothing proven about those catchweight talks, Froch might be saying that to save face.

[JeBron Lamez]

Why did Ward not linger around at 168 longer ?

Didn't watch the Super Six, huh?

[JAB5239]

By the time the Golovkin Froch talks were going on Ward was already fighting at custom weight classes of 172lbs. Good luck squeezing another 4lbs and not show up as a corpse on fight night. There is nothing proven about those catchweight talks, Froch might be saying that to save face.

Ward had been calling out Golovkin for several years before this. So what you're saying is irrelevant.

Of course this is your defense. "There is nothing proven". There is nothing proven they didnt ask for a catchweight. Its he said/she said. But the FACT remains that Froch was a retired fighter and Gennady never fought at supermiddleweight. He sure could have made that Ward fight though.......Froch did.

https://www.boxingscene.com/articles/froch-on-golovkin-im-retired-he-needs-name-fight-ward