Froch to fight Calzaghe??

[JAB5239]

Golovkin is a hero of mine & he beat Canelo twice.

No-one here said he ever fought at a catchweight during his career.

The fact is that Golovkin's team did attempt to bring Froch out of retirement with a suggestion that he fight Golovkin at 166 lb, it's pretty well documented.

Thank you!!

[Haka]

Golovkin is a hero of mine & he beat Canelo twice.

No-one here said he ever fought at a catchweight during his career.

The fact is that Golovkin's team did attempt to bring Froch out of retirement with a suggestion that he fight Golovkin at 166 lb, it's pretty well documented.

It could be just a start of the negotiations to later concede it for something else. It seemed they couldn't get anyone in the ring with GGG at some point, especially in the 12-16 era, it raises questions for me when someone walks away from a career high payday just like that and call it a day.

[JeBron Lamez]

when someone walks away from a career high payday just like that and call it a day.

But that isn't what happened.

It isn't what happened because Carl Froch had already retired before the discussions even took place, having earned £8,000,000 from his final fight.

[Haka]

Made up lies? Ok, prove it. Froch retired in 2014. How many times had Golovkin fought at 168 up until that point? I'll answer for you.....zero. how many contenders did he ever beat at 168? Zero. You saying Froch ducked Golovkin at a weight GGG never fought at and while being retired is tantamount to saying Golovkin ducked Ward. It's just ridiculous.

For all the trashtalk he had Froch became real quiet when the opportunity to earn a career high pay day to find out what the Mexican style was about.

[JAB5239]

For all the trashtalk he had Froch became real quiet when the opportunity to earn a career high pay day to find out what the Mexican style was about.

He was retired. And if Golovkin wanted it that bad why not go to 168?

[QueensburyRules]

Golovkin is a hero of mine & he beat Canelo twice.

No-one here said he ever fought at a catchweight during his career.

The fact is that Golovkin's team did attempt to bring Froch out of retirement with a suggestion that he fight Golovkin at 166 lb, it's pretty well documented.

- - Golovkin and Canelo both favs for me, so I hate when favs fight.

There were a lot of even rounds in that fight where dummied up fans insist their guy won. 1st fight I had Canelo by one point in a split decision, so I was ecstatic with the draw, a very reasonable set of judges.

2nd fight Golovkin got beat up as Canelo took ring center and knocked him out of it anytime he crashed in. Last few rounds Canelo fought defensively keeping Golovkin moving into counter right hands.

3rd fight Golovkin admitted he made a lot of mistakes leading up to the 1st two fights, so Canelo gave him another stupendous payday to take back to Kazakhstan where he's Big Poohbah of their boxing programs.

It's not unusual for unstudied kids to hold fantasy grudges over things they know not, but most eventually mature, so perhaps you'll have something to look forward to...

[JAB5239]

It was anybody 154 - 168. If Froch was retired why did he take the bait and entertain negotiations and then on second thought back off ? Fighters on the wrong side of 30 often fight once a year so everything was still in that time span. Froch even admitted in the thread that you posted that he and Calzaghe could've faced 7-8 years (2017-2018) ago when he was physically 'still prime' if Turki was a thing back then. All evidence point to Froch being physical just fine then the only variable that has to be examined is mentally. In regards to the 168 part: now that GGG career is over we can detect NO evidence of him ever having utilized catchweights, and even moving up outside of his usual weight to go the distance with the then P4P prime fight at 40 years old. There is no evidence that the supposed 'catchweight' a rumour coined by Froch himself, would ever be a stumbling block for negotations falling through as opposed to it being a initial proposal that could be worked out in further negotations.

Contemplating a fight after retirement, and accusing a fighter of ducking a guy who never fought in the same weight class are two different things. Why didn't Golovking go up and fight Ward?

You're reasoning is pretty funny. You can keep trying, but saying a retired fighter ducked a guy not even willing to move up to his weight class is outright hilarious.

[Haka]

Contemplating a fight after retirement, and accusing a fighter of ducking a guy who never fought in the same weight class are two different things. Why didn't Golovking go up and fight Ward?

You're reasoning is pretty funny. You can keep trying, but saying a retired fighter ducked a guy not even willing to move up to his weight class is outright hilarious.

Only this one question still:

It was anybody 154 - 168. If Froch was retired why did he take the bait and entertain negotiations and then on second thought back off ? Fighters on the wrong side of 30 often fight once a year so everything was still in that time span. Froch even admitted in the thread that you posted that he and Calzaghe could've faced 7-8 years (2017-2018) ago when he was physically 'still prime' if Turki was a thing back then. All evidence point to Froch being physical just fine then the only variable that has to be examined is mentally. Now we have already deduced that Froch had a career high payday in the workings and that Froch was still in his physical prime or close to it. If it is not physical state that leaves us with the mental state, which raises the question: what was the mental state of Froch in regards to GGG such that you could not get those two in the same ring despite getting a guaranteerd career high payday and career high attendence and career high numbers in general ?

[JeBron Lamez]

It's not unusual for unstudied kids to hold fantasy grudges over things they know not, but most eventually mature, so perhaps you'll have something to look forward to...

OK rummy.

[JAB5239]

Only this one question still:

It was anybody 154 - 168. If Froch was retired why did he take the bait and entertain negotiations and then on second thought back off ? Fighters on the wrong side of 30 often fight once a year so everything was still in that time span. Froch even admitted in the thread that you posted that he and Calzaghe could've faced 7-8 years (2017-2018) ago when he was physically 'still prime' if Turki was a thing back then. All evidence point to Froch being physical just fine then the only variable that has to be examined is mentally. Now we have already deduced that Froch had a career high payday in the workings and that Froch was still in his physical prime or close to it. If it is not physical state that leaves us with the mental state, which raises the question: what was the mental state of Froch in regards to GGG such that you could not get those two in the same ring despite getting a guaranteerd career high payday and career high attendence and career high numbers in general ?

Froch entertained it, that's all. And he entertained it at 168, not a cacartwright. Froch and Calzaghe are a different matter as at that time they were both active.

I don't get what you mean by "all evidence". What evidence is that? And psychologically being fine is as and in many cases more important than being physically ready. You keep saying you couldn't get Froch in the ring with GGG. But you ignore the fact you couldn't get GGG in the ring with Ward. End of the day Carl was retired. If he had come out of retirement, been called out at 168 and refused you could make a case. But the simple fact is that's not what happened. That in turn means he did not duck anyone.