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  • Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
    Roy Jones is an all-time great according to almost any boxing historian you care to mention.

    The same can’t be said for Dariusz Michalczewski. What CAN be said for him is that he was incredibly fortunate to be active in the same era…but sadly he never had the stones to measure himself against all-time. That’s a blemish that echos through eternity I would think.

    Great.

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    • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

      You truly are mentally challenged. You said Roy turned down a record purse in the Ukraine. You were wrong again......as usual.
      - - In the Ukrainian Consortium that I assumed was self explanatory to all but the usual lower order anthropoids.

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      • Originally posted by MalevolentBite View Post
        There's sports where America media isn't overall respected like Soccer/ football. Maybe even Tennis.
        Football journalism in the US is almost non-existent. Sad, because that's the greatest sport in the world, and the most dominant sport world-wide. Maybe it's because we have such an overload of entertainment options, but Americans SUCK as sports fans and can't mentally handle a sport where you have to follow the course of play continuously instead of only paying attention at the highlights (hockey has the same issue with American fans).

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        • Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

          - - In the Ukrainian Consortium that I assumed was self explanatory to all but the usual lower order anthropoids.
          How do you figure saying someone turned down a fight in a specific country and than back tracking on it self explanatory? The only explanation is your lack of knowledge about boxing.

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          • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

            How do you figure saying someone turned down a fight in a specific country and than back tracking on it self explanatory? The only explanation is your lack of knowledge about boxing.
            - - Y U ask Y in Gibberish?

            Sorry Roy wasn't up to the legacy fight vs Dariusz...c'est la vie...

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            • Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

              - - Y U ask Y in Gibberish?

              Sorry Roy wasn't up to the legacy fight vs Dariusz...c'est la vie...
              Yup, Roy didn't go to Germany (not the Ukraine) to fight, and Michalszewski didn't come to the US to fight. Apparently neither thought it would affect their legacies that badly to budget. For Roy, it really didn't, he's seen as an all time great LHW. Sadly Michalszewski isn't, which I consider a miscarriage.

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              • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                Yup, Roy didn't go to Germany (not the Ukraine) to fight, and Michalszewski didn't come to the US to fight. Apparently neither thought it would affect their legacies that badly to budget. For Roy, it really didn't, he's seen as an all time great LHW. Sadly Michalszewski isn't, which I consider a miscarriage.
                - - Dariusz flew to Florida to attend a Roy fight so he could lobby for a record paying Legacy fight in Germany that Roy and HBO refused with U noggin in U bag of Glue.

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                • Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                  - - Dariusz flew to Florida to attend a Roy fight so he could lobby for a record paying Legacy fight in Germany that Roy and HBO refused with U noggin in U bag of Glue.
                  Roy actually didn't refuse. He told them what he wanted to be paid to go to Germany. If they didn't want to pay it they could have negotiated to fight in the US. But that didn't happen either, hence this was both their faults for not trying very hard to work something out.

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                  • Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

                    Exactly! We are a sound bite society and football (soccer) gives little opportunity to build drama.

                    Same with hockey, too continuous.

                    The scoring comes in flash moments with little to no opportunity to build the anticipation necessary to create drama.

                    American Football on the other hand was brilliantly designed by Walter Camp (and a few others) in 1880 when they created the first deliberately intermittent game.

                    They replaced the scrum (which was designed to keep the game moving) with the scrimmage! Which was designed to deliberately start, stop, and then restart the game.

                    From its origin American Football was deliberately designed to entertain a crowd and that meant creating drama.

                    American Football is actually (about) 85 separate vignettes, with each telling its own story. E.g. fourth and one, first and ten, third and goal. Etc.

                    The game gives the audience the opportunity to recognize the situation, discuss the situation, watch the situation play out in five seconds or less, and then relax and discuss the results.

                    Once they stop talking (giving their opinion as to what happened or should have happened, which is the best part,) they stuff their mouth with chips and beer and begin to evaluate the next situation.

                    The game is wonderfully design for a dumb audience. Wonderfully designed for a lazy audience. Wonderfully designed for socializing while watching. There is much to talk about between each "down."

                    The QB actually says "Get ready, get set, go!" Maybe not in that childlike order but all three words appear to cue a lazy/dumb audience.

                    Soccer (and hockey) gives the audience no opportunity to build drama with anticipation. Soccer doesn't even allow the audience to watch the clock tick down. (One of the great opportunities to build drama.) Excitment only comes in flash moments. That's not good drama.

                    An American Football game has a narrative; Soccer plays out like a ****** of consciousness.

                    P.S. You are kidding yourself if you think Soccer is popular worldwide because the audience is more sophisticated. Nah!

                    Soccer is played worldwide because.

                    1. Almost anyone can play it. Six year old girls to top athletes.

                    2. It needs no equipment but a round ball. (Cheap enough for third-world societies.)

                    3. Can be played on different size fields conducive to the athletes capabilities and availability of terrain.

                    4. Was spread by British/French/Spanish colonialism across the World.

                    Soccer is a cheap and easy to play game.
                    Actually, I intensely dislike American football and think it's been watchable since the 1990s. It makes me want to puke. Unlike the vast majority of American sports "fans", I don't have the attention span of a fu cking gerbil. I'm interested in the game, not the sound-byte highlight. I watch a dozen or more soccer games a week, and a bunch of hockey games on top of them. Continuous action is no problem if the spectator has more than three brain cells to rub together. I've said before: Americans are NOT sports fans. They're EVENT fans. They're fans of the big spectacle. The NFL feeds them with that mindless pablum literally every fu cking game. Americans are also fans of gam bling. That's the other half of NFL fandom: American football is a better's dream. Also, I'll pass on all the "American Exceptionalism" bullsh it. It makes me want to puke more than NFL games. The only thing exceptional about Americans is their oversized egos, their mind-boggling stup idity, and their over-the-top penchant for evil.....and I say that as an American who's had a lifetime of experience watching her fellow Americans.

                    I like you, Willie, you're one of my favorite posters! Just don't try to sell me on American football: You'll never succeed!
                    Last edited by Biledriver; 03-27-2025, 10:03 AM.
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                    • Lol

                      As if soccer fans don’t stuff their face with beer.

                      And the players deliberately fall down and pretend they were fouled to gain an advantage. How very Eurotrash of them.

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